Chocobo_Blitzer
Active member
I'm sorry if this will turn into another flame war, as inflammatory none-americans and belligerant patriotic Americans have ruined most of these topics. Mods if you think this will occur again, I understand a lock.
I know we've been over Iraq before, but I only see topics about the outbreak of the war: "For the oil", "For the daddy", "Free the people", "WMD" "invade North Korea!"
But hardly any progessive discussion of a solution.
The USA and her most trusted allies are in a rather large pickle. If we leave, a civil will occur and an Islamic fascist movement will come into power. There's a chance a secular group like the baathist party could secure power, but I think that's a smaller minority in the sunni bloke right now, I think fundamentalism by the likes of Al Zarqawi is the flavor of the year. In short: quick victory for Islamic fascism.
If we stay, we're in for a long while of coalition deaths and bitter hatred of the USA. The terrorist cause is fueled by disillusioned Iraqis and muslims everywhere. It's impossible to kill them all off with coalition troops.
At our current rate of training professional Iraqi troopers... we'll be there forever. So we need Europeans to step up and help in the Iraq crisis, and that's what it is. We have some allies, but most lack the courage to commit their military to face Islamic fascism. But they can still help, they can still help us train these guys, because the only way you can win is to speak to the people, and to do that you must BE the people. Iraqis need national identity to unite them against the Islamofascist cause.
Of course, the president of the United States needs to reach out to europeans- but so does Europe need to help us. Afterall, if Islam should fall to the fundamentalist cause, it will certainly seek the destruction of the west.
I know we've been over Iraq before, but I only see topics about the outbreak of the war: "For the oil", "For the daddy", "Free the people", "WMD" "invade North Korea!"
But hardly any progessive discussion of a solution.
The USA and her most trusted allies are in a rather large pickle. If we leave, a civil will occur and an Islamic fascist movement will come into power. There's a chance a secular group like the baathist party could secure power, but I think that's a smaller minority in the sunni bloke right now, I think fundamentalism by the likes of Al Zarqawi is the flavor of the year. In short: quick victory for Islamic fascism.
If we stay, we're in for a long while of coalition deaths and bitter hatred of the USA. The terrorist cause is fueled by disillusioned Iraqis and muslims everywhere. It's impossible to kill them all off with coalition troops.
At our current rate of training professional Iraqi troopers... we'll be there forever. So we need Europeans to step up and help in the Iraq crisis, and that's what it is. We have some allies, but most lack the courage to commit their military to face Islamic fascism. But they can still help, they can still help us train these guys, because the only way you can win is to speak to the people, and to do that you must BE the people. Iraqis need national identity to unite them against the Islamofascist cause.
Of course, the president of the United States needs to reach out to europeans- but so does Europe need to help us. Afterall, if Islam should fall to the fundamentalist cause, it will certainly seek the destruction of the west.