How to handle the Iraq situation? - Page 6




 
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Boots
 
February 2nd, 2005  
gingerbeard
 
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Originally Posted by Whispering Death
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Originally Posted by Sexybeast
show support/???
does that help?
does showing support can reduce the expolsions in iraq>

can showing support kick insurgents' ass?
can showing support accelerate the rebuilding??

U.S needs practical support, not spritiual
I am beginning to wonder if any of these supposedly 'chinese' people (who never seem to be living in China) know the first god damned thing about warfare!?! Really, you don't think it provides a significant moralle boost when you come home from a 10 month tour of duty in h**l to see American flags waving, yellow ribbons everywhere you go, and people on every streetcorner thanking you for your service? Really, you think that's such a bad idea? Here, tell me how bad of an idea that is, tell me how our troops need to be disgraced like in Vietnam. Please, impart your wisdom to me.
well actually, what ever action u do there is people who support it and ppl who dun. like if u remove the communist gov in china, some ppl will rejoice but some ppl wont, in US media they would display ppl who like the US and not display resistance fighters saying they hate americans and the destroy u brought, u got to know all news are bias.
February 2nd, 2005  
Whispering Death
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by gingerbeard
well actually, what ever action u do there is people who support it and ppl who dun. like if u remove the communist gov in china, some ppl will rejoice but some ppl wont, in US media they would display ppl who like the US and not display resistance fighters saying they hate americans and the destroy u brought, u got to know all news are bias.
First off, that's not what Sexybeast was saying.

But to your point, there is absolutely no reason to be against the troops. If you are so ****ed up in the head that you want your our servicemen to die and your own country to lose the war then you certianly don't deserve to be in America, and I'd argue you are a traitor and don't deserve to live. You can say that you shouldn't have gone to war, but you can not say you want your own country to lose the war.
February 2nd, 2005  
chewie_nz
 
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Originally Posted by Chocobo_Blitzer
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Originally Posted by Charge_7
Don't pat yourself on the back too much there, Blitzer. Chewie would say that just to wave the red flag at me. Doesn't mean he means it.

16 years is not enough time on this planet to have a well informed idea of how to handle a situation so vast and intertwined as Iraq. Sorry truth hurts. Wasn't meant to be rude. Just a statement of fact. Trust me, if I wanted to be rude I could do so more thoroughly. If you choose to take my observation as unkind that's up to you. Many people with much greater knowledge and experience than you or I and anybody else in this discussion are struggling with this conundrum and have been doing so for years, but you're going to solve it in a few poorly articulated paragraphs?
I know well of chewie's strong political leanings, you needn't tell me how much his compliment is worth. I'll judge that by myself, thanks.

You didn't think diminshing my opinion was rude? 55 years under your belt, I would think all of your knowledge and experience would get you an idea on insults.

I know how complex the situation is, I know we here on this little forum aren't going to solve the problem, I certainly know me and my "poorly articulated paragraphs" wont.

But who are you to dictate to me what to debate about? Because of my age? Would you like me to leave? Leave the grownups to debate?

Go ahead, be rude, be as rude as you can be. Make me cry off the forums.

Thanks for sharing your wisdom. I might not be able to understand it now, but when I'm a big grown up, I'm sure I will.
well cheers to the both of you!

i'll make it a bit more clear for ya'll

charge_7, you came down on blitzer like a ton of bricks for a potentially interesting debate topic,
and blitzer i meant that your response to charge was nicely put.

but thats fine, all the bitching has put paid to that

and p.s my political leaning are fairly moderate middle of the road ones here, slightly left leaning
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February 2nd, 2005  
Charge 7
 
 
Just shows you, Chewie, that when you hop into the middle of a heated discussion uninvited you can wind up slapped by both.
February 2nd, 2005  
chewie_nz
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Charge_7
Just shows you, Chewie, that when you hop into the middle of a heated discussion uninvited you can wind up slapped by both.
well i'll just shut my foriegn mouth until i'm invited then huh?


good one.



can't have us foriegn types getting too "uppity" now can we?
February 2nd, 2005  
Charge 7
 
 
Leave it to you to spin it to something about "foreigners". Nobody even mentioned that except you. And far be it from me to tell you to be quiet. Purely a word of caution nothing more. Have a g' day
February 3rd, 2005  
Sexybeast
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Big_Z
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sexybeast
show support/???
does that help?
does showing support can reduce the expolsions in iraq>

can showing support kick insurgents' ass?
can showing support accelerate the rebuilding??

U.S needs practical support, not spritiual
No, we don't need practical support. We have the most well rounded military in the world, we can support ourselfs. I'm not saying that a Polish or any other of our allies soldiers aren't as good as an American. We can handle the frontline stuff and the main bulk of the conflict and they know this.
lol....nice job in Iraq....how many Americans and Iraqis got killed by bombs now...how many hostages now? how many got BEHEADED? how many more ppl are going to die until Americans can realize that they cannot handle that Iraqi thing by themselves along..

they need internaional support, so there can be less bloodshed....and more money to help Iraqis to rebuild their shattered home..

if u really care about them?
February 3rd, 2005  
Sexybeast
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Whispering Death
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sexybeast
show support/???
does that help?
does showing support can reduce the expolsions in iraq>

can showing support kick insurgents' ass?
can showing support accelerate the rebuilding??

U.S needs practical support, not spritiual
I am beginning to wonder if any of these supposedly 'chinese' people (who never seem to be living in China) know the first god damned thing about warfare!?! Really, you don't think it provides a significant moralle boost when you come home from a 10 month tour of duty in h**l to see American flags waving, yellow ribbons everywhere you go, and people on every streetcorner thanking you for your service? Really, you think that's such a bad idea? Here, tell me how bad of an idea that is, tell me how our troops need to be disgraced like in Vietnam. Please, impart your wisdom to me.
lol...u misunderstood wut i am saying here, i dont mean that U.S Ppl should not support its troops, but ur allies...

i agree that ppl should always pay respect to their loyal soldiers for wut they have done for their country, and thank those soldiers who died to fight the evil in this world..

wut i am talking about is U.S;s allies...those who helped U.S in first gulf war...like EU nations, Arabian nations.....they didn't even offer U.S soldiers spritiual supports i think, they repeatly state that they are not for this war...

if they can give some real help (or at least support u ppl ), that would be great, perhaps less Americans will die, less iraqis will die and more rebuilding work can start
February 3rd, 2005  
Charge 7
 
 
Beast if you think that 1400 US deaths or 14,000 US deaths for that matter will sway us from doing the right thing, you have little concept of American resolution. And if you also think that having more Europeans there is going to change things one iota you're smoking something you can't buy in stores. Ask Spain how much the terrorists regard Europeans.
February 3rd, 2005  
Sexybeast
 
lol...so u mean less American death does not matter??
u dont want less explosions, less beheadings, less death of either Americans or Iraqis>??

as i ve said many times... if there are more troops coming to help U.S to secure Iraq...there may be less explosions everywhere....
or maybe more money to help rebuild Iraq...right?