How to handle the Iraq situation? - Page 4




 
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Boots
 
February 2nd, 2005  
03USMC
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sexybeast
EU, and ur arabian allies, those who helped U.S during last gulf war

Apparently the fact that EU which includes France and Germany not wanting any part of this didn't make the news in Peking ethier.

Once the situation stabalizes though I bet you see Saudi Arabia and Kuwait there.
February 2nd, 2005  
Chocobo_Blitzer
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Charge_7
Don't pat yourself on the back too much there, Blitzer. Chewie would say that just to wave the red flag at me. Doesn't mean he means it.

16 years is not enough time on this planet to have a well informed idea of how to handle a situation so vast and intertwined as Iraq. Sorry truth hurts. Wasn't meant to be rude. Just a statement of fact. Trust me, if I wanted to be rude I could do so more thoroughly. If you choose to take my observation as unkind that's up to you. Many people with much greater knowledge and experience than you or I and anybody else in this discussion are struggling with this conundrum and have been doing so for years, but you're going to solve it in a few poorly articulated paragraphs?
I know well of chewie's strong political leanings, you needn't tell me how much his compliment is worth. I'll judge that by myself, thanks.

You didn't think diminshing my opinion was rude? 55 years under your belt, I would think all of your knowledge and experience would get you an idea on insults.

I know how complex the situation is, I know we here on this little forum aren't going to solve the problem, I certainly know me and my "poorly articulated paragraphs" wont.

But who are you to dictate to me what to debate about? Because of my age? Would you like me to leave? Leave the grownups to debate?

Go ahead, be rude, be as rude as you can be. Make me cry off the forums.

Thanks for sharing your wisdom. I might not be able to understand it now, but when I'm a big grown up, I'm sure I will.
February 2nd, 2005  
Sexybeast
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 03USMC
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sexybeast
EU, and ur arabian allies, those who helped U.S during last gulf war

Apparently the fact that EU which includes France and Germany not wanting any part of this didn't make the news in Peking ethier.

Once the situation stabalizes though I bet you see Saudi Arabia and Kuwait there.
i hope u can change ur tone a bit, dont critisize others' age, and others' background, cuz that just makes u look even dumber

second, i am not in BEIJING (not that stupid Peking, learn more about china first), i am living in canada,
third, chinese ppl are well recieved on international news, and its media is much freer than 20 years ago, so basically wut u watch on TV (except those porn crap), chinese ppl also know it,


and finally, i know EU (includes France and Germany) do not want to take a part of Iraq operation,
but they have been allies in first Gulf War,
maybe U.S should know the reasons why they dont want to join this time..

and wut i was saying is taht letting them be a part of this war can help U.S, can reduce the bloodshed and can help to rebuild Iraq..

clear?
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Boots
February 2nd, 2005  
Charge 7
 
 
Oh and if you're against the Saudies, here's the company you're in:

Reuters:

Kerry under fire for Saudi-bashing

Washington: Saudi Arabia has criticised Democratic presidential challenger Sen. John Kerry for "bashing" the kingdom when he called on the United States to cut its dependence on the Middle East nation's oil.

"Saudi bashing is not an energy policy," an official with the Saudi Embassy in Washington said.

In his nomination acceptance speech Thursday night, Kerry said he wants America to use technology to become energy independent and end its reliance on Saudi oil.

"I want an America that relies on its own ingenuity and innovation - not the Saudi royal family," he said. The personal and financial ties between the Saudi royal family and US President George W. Bush and his family have been criticised in books and in Michael Moore's film Fahrenheit 9/11.

The Saudi embassy official said Saudi Arabia has been a reliable supplier of oil to the US market for decades and expects to continue in that role whether or not Kerry becomes president.
February 2nd, 2005  
03USMC
 
 
When did I Criticize you for your age or background or culture? And what tone? Sorry I don't agree with your take on how this should be handled.
But I don't think I should be required to agree with you just to make you happy.

I don't think the EU has any business there.

And I stand corrected on your location. Got it Canada not Peking.
February 2nd, 2005  
Sexybeast
 
talking to Charge_7


i am not against saudies, and i dont know why u put that up?
is that related to this topic?
February 2nd, 2005  
Sexybeast
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 03USMC
When did I Criticize you for your age or background or culture? And what tone? Sorry I don't agree with your take on how this should be handled.
But I don't think I should be required to agree with you just to make you happy.

I don't think the EU has any business there.

And I stand corrected on your location. Got it Canada not Peking.
alright, next time, dont talk like if u r superior or older or smarter or powerful or something, retired marine

EU does have buisness here, EU was an importnat ally of U.S in first Gulf war, they are one of most poweful group of nations on earth today, they did help U.S in first gulf war , however, they didn't this time

if they can be there, there will be more soldiers (probably less explosions, less blood), and more money to rebuild Iraq....


U.S needs to think about getting their old allies back to help U.S in iraq now
February 2nd, 2005  
Charge 7
 
 
The world doesn't revolve around you Beast. That was for Blitzer.
February 2nd, 2005  
Sexybeast
 
oh..sorry man, misunderstanding
February 2nd, 2005  
Charge 7
 
 
NP Beast

Blitzer if you weren't so concerned about that ego of your's you might even grasp that pontificating as you were was beyond you and made you ripe for somebody taking you down a peg. Having that happen to you is not always a bad thing. Sometimes you actually learn something. Debate? Sure debate all you want, just try to have a grip on reality and understand that _you_ do not have all the answers. If you had made your statements more in the frame of question and answer and a tolerance for either with some grain of doubt that you knew it all, then you would have been okay. You didn't do that. You sermonized from the mount.