How to destroy a Typhoon Submarine? - Page 2




 
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October 20th, 2004  
Kirruth
 
 
A nuclear depth charge would be indeed the choice of champions.
October 21st, 2004  
A Can of Man
 
 
Here's the thing.
A lot of torpedos or the likes don't depend on ramming the submarine and drilling a hole through the hull.
What they often do is blow up under the center of the submarine, creating a massive air pocket under the submarine. Being held by water on either end, and with the pressure of the water pressing down the middle from above, the submarine would snap in half.
So unless the hull is so strong that it can support the weight of the sub and all that water over it, it's going to snap and sink.
October 21st, 2004  
sunb!
 
 
I am pretty sure the subs have escort while leaving port, the distance from Murmansk and Archangelsk to the icecap is fairly long so any wessel of this size and importance should have escort by attack submarines and surface vessels (at least subs).
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October 21st, 2004  
Mark Conley
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by the_13th_redneck
Here's the thing.
A lot of torpedos or the likes don't depend on ramming the submarine and drilling a hole through the hull.
What they often do is blow up under the center of the submarine, creating a massive air pocket under the submarine. Being held by water on either end, and with the pressure of the water pressing down the middle from above, the submarine would snap in half.
So unless the hull is so strong that it can support the weight of the sub and all that water over it, it's going to snap and sink.
this showed a lot of thought about the mechanics of destruction..and ill give it high marks. what it doesn't take into account the depth at which a torpedo's massive water cavitation effect can occur.

thats the tricky thing about assault with a torpedo for a contact versus cavitation type kill. its water pressure. sure, if the explosion occurs shallow, say from about the surface to 150 deep...you may have a torpedo with a conventinal explosive head that could cause the gas bubble and break apart effect described above. But the deeper you go...the greater the water pressure..and the reduction of chance for a large cavitation to break the sub.

so at shallow depths its effective. at greater depths..hope for the contact explosion and a hole. just a little hole at 500 -800 feet will kill the sub quickly..very quickly.

the typhoon has an admitted diving depth of 400 meters or 1200 feet roughly. it doesn't have to come shallow until its ready to launch...and you don't want to kill it shallow. you need to kill this puppy deep..to ensure it doesn't launch that missile load.
October 21st, 2004  
Animal Mother
 
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Originally Posted by Bootboy82
Is it technically possible to fit a nuclear warhead on a torpedo?
Nuclear torpedoes have been around for a long time (Late 50's, early 60's i would say). They vanished with when the cold war ended IIRC. The US ones earlier than that even.
October 22nd, 2004  
A Can of Man
 
 
So there's the solution. Use the nuclear torpedo.
October 22nd, 2004  
Sea_Cadet
 
but think about the kursk, and then.......
October 22nd, 2004  
Mark Conley
 
 
i concour with reneck..its worth the atoms...
October 22nd, 2004  
c/Commander
 
 
Wrong. Mk48 ADCAP is still nuclear and still in use.
October 23rd, 2004  
Animal Mother
 
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Originally Posted by c/LtCdr
Wrong. Mk48 ADCAP is still nuclear and still in use.
Never heard of a nuclear tipped version of it, any links with any info?