hms invincible sunk in 1982? - Page 4




 
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October 3rd, 2005  
Bory
 
 
Just a quick question, which was the carrier Australia had put a deposit on, but was cancelled due to the Falklands. It was either the Ark Royal or the Invicible, I cannot remember for sure, but we did order one Surplus off the RN, but it was cancelled.
October 3rd, 2005  
bulldogg
 
 
The picture is bollocks. The aircraft in the background is a C-130 not a refueling tanker, so it makes me doubt any other information. Additionally how can you prove where and when this picture was taken... the pilot isn't holding a newspaper up for us to see.

Further I believe Charge is right that the UK would not be able to silence the families for 20+ years about this.

Finally, why would they do this?
October 3rd, 2005  
WingX
 
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October 3rd, 2005  
WingX
 
October 3rd, 2005  
WingX
 
UK constructed the Invincible Class to sell a ship at least.
Two days after the collapse of the Invincible, the 1/6/82 Australian first minister cancelled the purchase of the Invincible or any other twin one of that class.
UK never could sell no Invincible class after the War of the Falklands.
In spite of to have hidden the damage, the loss extended in naval atmospheres.
Nobody wanted a Invincible class in its fleet military.
October 3rd, 2005  
AussieNick
 
NYhunter. What country are you from anyway?
Mate, the world is not full of conspiracy. Get over it.
The evidence you post here is pointless. Photos of planes that don't identify anything about the context don't prove anything. I can do that, but it doesn't prove a thing.
October 3rd, 2005  
WingX
 
AussieNick:
The Argentina Navy and the Argentina Air Force, protest from 1982 by the impact and at least one important failure in the HMS-Invincible the 30/5/82.
Groups of Argentine historical investigators, protest by the collapse of the Invincible and allege a multiple spare part by and the secret construction of a fourth twin one between 1982 and 1984.

Two Argentine pilots died in the attack, Vazquez and Castillo.
Both surviving, Ureta and Isaac, they allege testimony about the impact of the Exocet and the ending of the ship with 3 pumps of 250 kg.

English official history says that the Argentine heroes are liers.

You request you photograph that they contribute forceful tests.

Here we will show to official photos of the return of the ship clone to you, Portsmouth the 17/9/82, this ship simulates to be the Invincible, but is it new and have an anti-missile cannon Phalanx in prow.

The sunk original Invincible did not have any phalanx.

The clone that returned replacing to the Invincible was the twin R06 or the R07.



October 3rd, 2005  
NYHunter
 
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Originally Posted by AussieNick
NYhunter. What country are you from anyway?
Mate, the world is not full of conspiracy. Get over it.
The evidence you post here is pointless. Photos of planes that don't identify anything about the context don't prove anything. I can do that, but it doesn't prove a thing.
I take English and Argentine blood in my veins, by that reason desire to find the truth of the happened thing for the good of the two nations.
you can help me? i am not an specialist in this
welcome aboard!!!
October 3rd, 2005  
NYHunter
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by bulldogg
The picture is bollocks. The aircraft in the background is a C-130 not a refueling tanker, so it makes me doubt any other information.
What is the difference that you can see in this photo, show me. sorry but I am not specialistic in Kc-130.

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Originally Posted by bulldogg
Additionally how can you prove where and when this picture was taken... the pilot isn't holding a newspaper up for us to see.
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About 12:30 hrs on May 30th 1982, two Super Etendards took off from Río Grande; the SUE 0752/3-A-202, piloted by the leader, Warship Lieutenant Alejandro Francisco, took off first , and second was the SUE 0755/3-A-205, flown by the wingman, Warship Lieutenant Luis Collavino. Five minutes later, the A-4Cs, belonging to the Air Force, also took off. Francisco carried the Exocet, and Collavino provided support and verification. The call signs of the Super Etendards and Skyhawks were 'Ala' and 'Zonda' respectively.

All the planes climbed to an altitude of 7,000 meters (21,000 feet) and flew to the rendezvous point with the KC-130H, where all the fighters were resupplied with fuel for 300 kms. After this refueling the planes turned to the east, with both SUEs separated by 1,600 meters (1 mile) and two Skyhawks behind each. When all of them were at 304 kms (190 miles) from the target area, they dived to an altitude of 30 meters (100 feet). Around 14:32 'Ala 1', Francisco, reported they had locked the Exocet on the target. 'Ala 2', Collavino, confirmed the lock and so Francisco launched the missile. With this launch, the participation of the 2nd Air Naval Squadron in the war came to an end. Both Super Etendards turned back and headed towards the meeting point with the KC-130H, and after that arrived at Río Grande without problems.



This historical photograph shows the SUE # 0752/3-A-202 piloted by Warship Lieutenant Alejandro Francisco when refueling on its way to the target, HMS Invincible on May 30th 1982. The last AM.39 Exocet can be seen under the right wing of the SUE, and the four A-4C Skyhawks of the 4th Fighter Group of the Argentine Air Force can also be seen far behind, waiting for their turn to refuel.
see more in this link http://www.britains-smallwars.com/Falklands/Exocet.html

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Originally Posted by bulldogg
Further I believe Charge is right that the UK would not be able to silence the families for 20+ years about this.
Finally, why would they do this?
for the same reason which they impose a secret by 90 years for all the related one to the Falklands, still having recovered the islands
they already did it with the HMS Dasher by 30 years
see more in this link http://www.submerged.co.uk/dashertragedy.php
October 3rd, 2005  
NYHunter
 
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Originally Posted by phoenix_aim54
that strange! today I could not enter to that website, will be correcting the information?

this website is always available
http://www.elmalvinense.s5.com/english/in82.html