Healthcare Bill vs. US Senate

[mmarsh]

It's Bush's fault........

Or it could be that the left was just so jazzed to pass a bill...any bill that they sold their souls....

Like they love to say the right does and pretty much became what they hate.

The libs in bed with faceless insurance companies....if it wasn't so freakin sad it would be funny.

Clue : the socialism your after dosen't benefit private industry. Thats the antithesis of Socialism you Freakin dolts.....all that money on higher education wasted.

Clue: Mandating the purchase of any service is most likely Unconstitutional and illeagal..we shall see.

Clue: when even the huffpo says yer screwed ....yer screwed thats yer pravda.

Depends which Bill you are referring to. The Senate Bill is crap, all the meat in it like the Public option, increasing medicare age, was stripped out by the GOP and the sellouts like Lieberman and Nelson with the anti-Abortion provision. The only thing it does is hand money to the the HMOs, if that's the final bill I'd vote against it. The House Bill is MUCH better, and is worth considering. Neither Bill will survive intact it remains to be seen how much of the House Bill will survive.

 

[wolfen]

So, let me get this all straight.

1. No public option

2. Everyone required to have Health insurance though private companies."give $6000 a year to faceless corporation that does everything it can to screw me out of my coverage..."

3. Failure to have or maintain Heath insurance and you will be fined by the government.

Please, some liberal with all their vast knowledge please explain to me the following.
What does the Federal government base its ability to make citizens buy a private commercial product like health insurance on?

Looks like the big Corporate Health insurance companies have been handed the Golden Goose.(Sounds like something the Democrats would accuse the big business Republicans of wanting).

that's what I read.

I heard a rumor that if you don't have insurance and you don't buy into this new scheme you can go to jail??

I heard that somewhere too.

 

[The Other Guy]

I heard a rumor that if you don't have insurance and you don't buy into this new scheme you can go to jail??

I've heard that as well, but I've heard it from the same sources that kept talking up the death panel farce, so I'm taking that with a grain of salt.

 

[wolfen]

TOG I wouldn't "take it with grain of salt"
I ger really leery of anything that comes out of DC in the past 10 years.
Granted I really doubt that all the people who can't afford health care will go to jail, but mark my words I bet ya they pass ANOTHER bill that authorizes either the govt or your employer to deduct your health care insurance money without your consent. They'll make it like the current health care taxes we all pay but don't know about.

 

[The Other Guy]

I really wish the Democratic party would grow a pair and not worry about offending the GOP and just do stuff. The GOP certainly doesn't worry about making people unhappy.

 

[wolfen]

I wish they would do away with political parties, THAT would be REAL reform that matters.

 

[George]

How did the GOP strip out anything? All GOP proposals were dismissed out of hand. The 60 Dem votes are not all Liberal, there are Moderate to Conservative votes. The Democrats leadership stripped out, or bribed Senators with Pork & tax breaks, what would have prevented a 60 vote lock on the vote. They wouldn't have had 60 votes except for the B.S. pulled by the Mass. Legislature.

 

[The Other Guy]

I wish they would do away with political parties, THAT would be REAL reform that matters.

It's a great idea, it was Washington's idea, but I doubt it will ever happen. Who would the corporations give their bribe money to?

 

[wolfen]

It's a great idea, it was Washington's idea, but I doubt it will ever happen. Who would the corporations give their bribe money to?

uuuummmmmm.....maybe the poor employees that they keep in poverty status?