Gun Control Statistics to Remember

5.56X45mm

Milforum Mac Daddy
Gun Control Statistics to Remember

Yes, this lesson give you History of the World credits. Read and heed.

While digesting this information, you might note that Fleet Admiral Isoroku Yamamoto, the officer responsible for planning and executing the militarily-brilliant and very tragic Pearl Harbor attack, was also asked to plan an invasion of the US West Coast.
When asked, he advised the military junta that ruled Japan that the task was impossible, because when landing in America, "there would be a rifleman behind every blade of grass."
The fact that our citizens are armed has saved our bacon three times now:
The Revolutionary War - won on these soils
The War of 1812 - Won on these soils
World War Two - Won on foreign soils, thanks to the "riflemen behind every blade of grass".
Read the lesson below, then go to the range and practice. That's an order.

... In 1929, the Soviet Union established gun control. From 1929 to 1953, about 20 million dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
------------------------------------------------
... In 1911, Turkey established gun control. From 1915 to 1917, 1.5 million Armenians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
------------------------------------------------
... Germany established gun control in 1938 and from 1939 to 1945, 13 million Jews and others who were unable to defend themselves were rounded up and exterminated.
------------------------------------------------
... China established gun control in 1935. From 1948 to 1952, 20 million political dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
------------------------------------------------
... Guatemala established gun control in 1964. From 1964 to 1981, 100,000 Mayan Indians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
------------------------------------------------
... Uganda established gun control in 1970. From 1971 to 1979, 300,000 Christians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated. ------------------------------------------------
... Cambodia established gun control in 1956. From 1975 to 1977, one million 'educated' people, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
------------------------------------------------
Defenseless people rounded up and exterminated in the 20th Century because of gun control: 56 million. ------------------------------------------------
It has now been 12 months since gun owners in Australia were forced by new laws to surrender 640,381 personal firearms to be destroyed by their own government, a program costing Australian taxpayers more than $500 million dollars. The first year results are now in: Australia-wide, homicides are up 3.2 percent Australia-wide, assaults are up 8.6 percent Australia-wide, armed robberies are up 44 percent (yes, 44 percent!) In the state of Victoria alone, homicides with firearms are now up 300 percent. (Note that while the law-abiding citizens turned them in, the criminals did not, and criminals still possess their guns!) While figures over the previous 25 years showed a steady decrease in armed robbery with firearms, this has changed drastically upward in the past 12 months, since the criminals now are guaranteed that their prey is unarmed. There has also been a dramatic increase in break-ins and assaults of the ELDERLY. Australian politicians are at a loss to explain how public safety has decreased, after such monumental effort and expense was expended in "successfully ridding Australian society of guns." The Australian experience and the other historical facts above prove it. You won't see this data on the American evening news or hear our president, governors or other politicians disseminating this information. Guns in the hands of honest citizens save lives and property and, yes, gun-control laws affect only the law-abiding citizens.
The next time someone talks in favor of gun control, please remind them of this history lesson. With guns, we are citizens. Without them, we are subjects.
 
Interesting. Mainly, Admiral Yamamoto's quote. I always knew the Americans saved the country during American Revolution War and War of 1812 cause of the citizens' weapons.

And General Kuribayashi, also, said that, "The USA is the last country, we should fight."
 
Interesting. Mainly, Admiral Yamamoto's quote. I always knew the Americans saved the country during American Revolution War and War of 1812 cause of the citizens' weapons.

And General Kuribayashi, also, said that, "The USA is the last country, we should fight."

The japanese also feared this simple quote...

Behind every blade of grass lies a American Rifleman.

The Japanese truly thought that every American was armed with a Winchester 1894 .30-30 Lever Action.

What folks also do not realize is that the Wild West didn't end until the 1930s in some areas and that in the 1940s there were still areas that had no electrical grids or families with no cars. The life Style of the Wild West was very much alive in the 1940s.
 
It's like the Hulk effect... The slightest trigger sets him off. (Get it? Trigger? Hahaha)

You made a funny... Here you get a
images
 
Well if you think we are going to be rounded up and exterminated perhaps we should all get armed to the teeth. :2guns:

Regarding a link between homocide and gun ownership it must be difficult to establish the cause and effect. A country with very low homicide rates might be not too worried about having liberal gun laws, yet a country with high homicide rates might react by restricting ownership. Here is a study controlling for other influences, robbery, unemployment, urbanization etc.

State-level homicide victimization rates in the US in relation to survey measures of household firearm ownership, 2001–2003

Two of every three American homicide victims are killed with firearms, yet little is known about the role played by household firearms in homicide victimization. The present study is the first to examine the cross sectional association between household firearm ownership and homicide victimization across the 50 US states, by age and gender, using nationally representative state-level survey-based estimates of household firearm ownership. Household firearm prevalence for each of the 50 states was obtained from the 2001 Behavioral Risk Factor Surveillance System. Homicide mortality data for each state were aggregated over the three-year study period, 2001–2003. Analyses controlled for state-level rates of aggravated assault, robbery, unemployment, urbanization, per capita alcohol consumption, and a resource deprivation index (a construct that includes median family income, the percentage of families living beneath the poverty line, the Gini index of family income inequality, the percentage of the population that is black and the percentage of families headed by a single female parent). Multivariate analyses found that states with higher rates of household firearm ownership had significantly higher homicide victimization rates of men, women and children. The association between firearm prevalence and homicide victimization in our study was driven by gun-related homicide victimization rates; non-gun-related victimization rates were not significantly associated with rates of firearm ownership. Although causal inference is not warranted on the basis of the present study alone, our findings suggest that the household may be an important source of firearms used to kill men, women and children in the United States.

The link to the above is rather long, but a reference to to the reference is here
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/23/health/23cons.html

Here is a study on the impact of Australia’s 1996 firearms legislation, which demonstrates how complex it is to analyse cause and effect over time when rates are varying due to other factors as well.​
http://www.cjcj.org/pdf/the_impact.pdf

Can't comment on one years figures though without looking at normal yearly variation.
 
You made a funny... Here you get a
images
Yaaay!!! :) *bites cookie* Hey, this tastes like almonds...



Back on topic... Perseus, this argument has been made on here so many times it's not even funny. In fact, we could probably manage to get this thread locked, because there are exact copies buried in the forum archives. The fact remains that criminals will have guns, no matter what. So what good does it do the common people of the United States to take away what could be their only method of true defense? Like my dad always says "Never bring a knife to a gun fight.... Unless you're James Bond."


Now, I don't mean that guns should be on the shelves next to the peanut butter, but I don't believe that we should get rid of guns in households. I'm a social moderate. I'm for some control, but not total control. Just take a look at that Marine who took care of those robbers. Wouldn't have happened without a firearm. And guess what? He was properly registered and knew how to use it. THAT'S what I ask. Knowledge is power... Especially when it comes to dangerous weapons. Proper background checks are a must, IMHO. No one crazy person should be able to get a handgun just because he has a license. Thorough inspection of a persons psyche should be utilized, especially with concealable weapons. But other than that, why should we get rid of our guns?
 
Perseus, this argument has been made on here so many times it's not even funny. In fact, we could probably manage to get this thread locked, because there are exact copies buried in the forum archives.
What argument, cause and effect? Anyway I know exactly what you feel like from another topic :bang:

The fact remains that criminals will have guns, no matter what. So what good does it do the common people of the United States to take away what could be their only method of true defense?
Well I thought the report answered that, the bit which I highlighted in bold. Less people die overall. Perhaps you don't agree with the statistic, or that it doesn't matter, since in principle people have got the right to be armed. I certainly agree that homicide has more important causes than gun ownership.
 
If you have a complete ban of guns in America, it's going to be like Christmas every day for criminals.
Over here life is safer without guns. The sort of resistance you'll need with guns is not necessary and probably won't be for a long time. If it becomes necessary, you can always raid an Army depot and get weapons. That happened back in the late 70's with the uprising against Chun Doo-hwan. Protesters broke into an Army depot and got all kinds of stuff, rifles, bazookas and even armored vehicles. Then the Army opened fire and pretty much slaughtered them.
 
Thanks Aiki.


Perseus, the point is, even though people die when there are guns in the household, even MORE people would die WITHOUT guns in the household.
 
Last edited:
Sure someone is going to proove me wrong here, but is there a relation between the number of licensed guns and mass killings of the type in Finland Today? (as opposed to one off street gang / household argument shootings). In Europe just about every case of this kind has come from a licensed (rather than an illegal) gun. Am I rcorrect in saying that the number of licensed weapons/capita is very high in Finland And Switzerland?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7630969.stm

Deadliest Mass Shootings (8 or more dead) in Europe, 1987-2007
DATE
PLACE
DEAD
LEGAL STATUS
7 Nov 2007
Tuusula, Finland
8 + 1
Legal handgun, pistol club member
15 Oct 2002
Chieri, Italy
7 + 1
Legal guns, licensed gun collector
26 Apr 2002
Erfurt, Germany
16 + 1
Legal guns, pistol club member
27 Mar 2002
Nanterre, France
8
Legal guns, pistol club member
27 Sep 2001
Zug, Switzerland
14 + 1
Legal guns, licensed pistol owner
9 Nov 1999
Bielefeld, Germany
7 + 1
Firearm, licensing status unverified
13 Mar 1996
Dunblane Scotland
17 + 1
Legal guns, pistol club member
19 Aug 1987
Hungerford, England
16 + 1
Legal guns, pistol club member
Total shot dead, including 7 perpetrators: 100
93 + 7


http://www.gun-control-network.org/GF02.htm
 
Evidently Finland and Switzerland have the 3rd and 4th highest registered guns per capita in the world

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lists_of_countries_by_gun_ownership

so Finland and Switzerland (with a population of about 12 million between them) now have 32+3 deaths out of 103+8 total for Europe

I suppose the significance of this is that nearly all all these people are completely innocent unlike most gangland murders
 
Last edited:
Back
Top