Greece rejects joint maneuver with Israel against Iran

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Greek Foreign Minister Dora Bakoyannis said here on Saturday her country did not and will not launch any maneuver against its friendly country, Iran.

She made the remarks in a meeting with her Iranian counterpart Manouchehr Mottaki held on the sidelines of the 63rd annual session of the UN General Assembly.

She further briefed Mottaki on efforts made by the Europe with regards to the latest developments in the Caucasus.

Mottaki voiced Iran's readiness to further expand bilateral relations in all areas, particularly in the energy and trade fields.

The Iranian foreign minister then criticized recent joint Greece-Israel military exercises.

He briefed Bakoyannis on Iran's initiative on settlement of stability and tranquility in the Caucasus region.

Referring to the Islamic Republic of Iran as a country with rich culture and civilization, the Greek foreign minister stressed that Athens is willing to further promote all-out ties with Tehran.

She added that two Greek political and economic delegations will soon visit Iran to review issues of mutual interest and to help further expand bilateral cooperation.

http://www2.irna.ir/en/news/view/menu-236/0809282312110314.htm
 
I don't know. From a strategical, strictly military point of view, it is actually Greece who needs Israel. Nevertheless, it's a rare positive news concerning Iran and I'm pretty sure the Iranian media don't skip a beat when those are around.
 
Greece

Are they trying to avoid being on a Iranian missile target list or something I don't get it.
 
The message of the news is clear. Iran and Greece as two countries with an old and rich civilization don't want the safety of middle east threatened by a Counterfeit regime and some depended traitor countries.
 
The message of the news is clear. Iran and Greece as two countries with an old and rich civilization don't want the safety of middle east threatened by a Counterfeit regime and some depended traitor countries.

If Iran is so friendly with Greece then why did they halt a shipment of 500000 barrels of crude oil? Greece is more friendly with Israel than with Iran.
BTW the link from the first post is not valid anymore.

If Iran wants to be respected it better answers the questions the IAEA is asking for years. If they would have complied with the IAEA years ago then they would already have a nuclear energy plant working.
 
If Iran wants to be respected it better answers the questions the IAEA is asking for years. If they would have complied with the IAEA years ago then they would already have a nuclear energy plant working.
Iran answers the questions the IAEA is asking for years?!!!!
hahaha, Iran does this much more than was necessary. Hundred of times.But the subject is that if Iran even increase his cooperation with IAEA more than this, there wont occur any change.
WHY?
BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT IRAN HAVE THE URANIUM ٍENRICHMENT TECHNOLOGY.
IAEA is a tool in US and his confederates hands. Amano is a doll that says anything they want. IAEA just gets his information from the US and Israel security services and says it in their reports without any judgment. But the interesting things is that they cant find anything to show that Iran is going to make Atomic Bomb. Even a tiny evidence. WHY? BECAUSE IRAN IS NOT GOING.
"In a court judge says to the accuser: You are accused. the accuser says why? the judge says: we don't have any evidence for that. we are just suspicious to you. You get us the evidences." it is a really funny world!!!
But why they are suspicious to Iran? Because of Israel. Who is Israel? a counterfeit regime who is not a member of IAEA. a slaughterous regime who has more than 300 nuclear warheads. a regime who threatens Iran's Nuclear centers by bombardment. a regime who supported by Jewish lobby in US and use US as a tool to pressure on Iran.
They are not belonged to our region. the western counties soldiers have to go. They are here just for oil. we drive them out.
 
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Iran answers the questions the IAEA is asking for years?!!!!

traces of highly enriched uranium had been found by inspectors of the International Atomic Energy Agency on equipment linked to the Military Physics Research Center, up until know Iran has not answered the question where it came from. And there are many more unanswered questions.
Iran is the only member of the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty unable to convince the international community that its nuclear program is for peaceful purposes.

hahaha, Iran does this much more than was necessary. Hundred of times.But the subject is that if Iran even increase his cooperation with IAEA more than this, there wont occur any change.
WHY?
BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT IRAN HAVE THE URANIUM ٍENRICHMENT TECHNOLOGY.
IAEA is a tool in US and his confederates hands. Amano is a doll that says anything they want. IAEA just gets his information from the US and Israel security services and says it in their reports without any judgment. But the interesting things is that they cant find anything to show that Iran is going to make Atomic Bomb. Even a tiny evidence. WHY? BECAUSE IRAN IS NOT GOING.

If Iran would have cooperated with the IAEA from in the beginning they already would have a nuclear power plant up and running.

"In a court judge says to the accuser: You are accused. the accuser says why? the judge says: we don't have any evidence for that. we are just suspicious to you. You get us the evidences." it is a really funny world!!!
But why they are suspicious to Iran? Because of Israel. Who is Israel? a counterfeit regime who is not a member of IAEA. a slaughterous regime who has more than 300 nuclear warheads. a regime who threatens Iran's Nuclear centers by bombardment. a regime who supported by Jewish lobby in US and use US as a tool to pressure on Iran.

So far they haven't found the smoking gun but someone was seen with the same clothes, the same posture and the same vehicle. So the judge asks "how come?" and the defendant refuses to answer.

No one knows how many nuclear warheads Israel has, so your 300+ will propably be wrong.

They are not belonged to our region. the western counties soldiers have to go. They are here just for oil. we drive them out.

Without the west you would still have no oil and drive camels in the desert, and no internet so you could post this.
 
traces of highly enriched uranium had been found by inspectors of the International Atomic Energy Agency on equipment linked to the Military Physics Research Center, up until know Iran has not answered the question where it came from. And there are many more unanswered questions.
Iran is the only member of the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty unable to convince the international community that its nuclear program is for peaceful purposes.
[FONT=&quot]It is a very old question which Iran answered it and IAEA was convinced at that time. And the origin of traces of highly enriched uranium was related to the country who Iran had bought this equipment. So this question shows that your information about Iran nuclear program is low. [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]If someone follows the Iran's nuclear dispute he can find easily that Iran is not going to make atomic bomb. It is the thing that all of west politician and [/FONT][FONT=&quot]security services [/FONT][FONT=&quot]agree with it. The only thing is that they don’t want Iran have the enrichment technology. Why?” Because then Iran can make the atomic bomb whenever she wishes in future.” as they said.[/FONT]
So far they haven't found the smoking gun but someone was seen with the same clothes, the same posture and the same vehicle. So the judge asks "how come?" and the defendant refuses to answer.

No one knows how many nuclear warheads Israel has, so your 300+ will propably be wrong.
[FONT=&quot]I’ve heard different numbers up to now, 200-400, 300+ or others and as I can understand from your reply it seems that you agree with all sentences about Israel except that the numbers of atomic warheads.. Ok, how many you want to be. Ten is enough?[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot] The main reason that western countries bring pressure on Iran is the Israel’s security. So I want to ask some question from the people who are reading this text:[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Is it logical that a country who is not a member of IAEA being objecting about another country who is a member of IAEA?[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Is it logical that a country who has atomic warheads accuse another country about her enrichment activities (which is not illegal)?[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot] What the other countries should to do when a country attack or threaten the other countries atomic facilities?[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]And it is not Iran’s right to be care about her security when some countries threaten her? The security is just for west countries?[/FONT]
Without the west you would still have no oil and drive camels in the desert, and no internet so you could post this.
[FONT=&quot]You just leave our region and it is not necessary to be care about our transportation. On foot, camel, horse or any other thing, it is our problem. We will solve it.[/FONT]
 
[FONT=&quot]It is a very old question which Iran answered it and IAEA was convinced at that time. And the origin of traces of highly enriched uranium was related to the country who Iran had bought this equipment. So this question shows that your information about Iran nuclear program is low. [/FONT]

This is what that country said :

28. ...That State has reported to the Agency that it is not plausible that all of the contamination found in Iran could have originated from their country (e.g. the U-236 fraction found in Iran is significantly higher)...
Implementation of the NPT Safeguards Agreement in the Islamic Republic of Iran (1 June 2004)

So, the question is still unanswered.


[FONT=&quot]If someone follows the Iran's nuclear dispute he can find easily that Iran is not going to make atomic bomb. It is the thing that all of west politician and [/FONT][FONT=&quot]security services [/FONT][FONT=&quot]agree with it. The only thing is that they don’t want Iran have the enrichment technology. Why?” Because then Iran can make the atomic bomb whenever she wishes in future.” as they said.[/FONT]

If Iran's nuclear research is only peacefull then why are they enriching uranium to 20% (not needed) and why are they testing nuclear missile warhead designs?

[FONT=&quot]I’ve heard different numbers up to now, 200-400, 300+ or others and as I can understand from your reply it seems that you agree with all sentences about Israel except that the numbers of atomic warheads.. Ok, how many you want to be. Ten is enough?[/FONT]

No one knows. Most, if not to say everyone, believes they have some. Can be 10, 100 or more. Your guess is as good as mine.

[FONT=&quot] The main reason that western countries bring pressure on Iran is the Israel’s security. So I want to ask some question from the people who are reading this text:[/FONT]

That's not completely true. The west is concerned about a conflict in the middle east because of the world wide consequences. Do not forget that without western pressure on Israel they would have already attacked.

[FONT=&quot]Is it logical that a country who is not a member of IAEA being objecting about another country who is a member of IAEA?[/FONT]
That is allowed. A country is free to criticise another country.

[FONT=&quot]Is it logical that a country who has atomic warheads accuse another country about her enrichment activities (which is not illegal)?[/FONT]

Iran's enrichment activities are illegal because of UN Security Counsil Resolutions, which are binding.

[FONT=&quot] What the other countries should to do when a country attack or threaten the other countries atomic facilities?[/FONT]

What should other countries do when a country declares to wipe you of the map?

[FONT=&quot]And it is not Iran’s right to be care about her security when some countries threaten her? The security is just for west countries?[/FONT]

They have the right to defend themselves, Just like any other country.

[FONT=&quot]You just leave our region and it is not necessary to be care about our transportation. On foot, camel, horse or any other thing, it is our problem. We will solve it.[/FONT]

You do not control your region, only your country. Your jurisdiction stops at your borders.
 
Lets face it Greece is bust and will not pay out vast sums to have their forces chasing around playing war games. If I was charge in Greece I would say the same thing.
 
This is what that country said :

28. ...That State has reported to the Agency that it is not plausible that all of the contamination found in Iran could have originated from their country (e.g. the U-236 fraction found in Iran is significantly higher)...
Implementation of the NPT Safeguards Agreement in the Islamic Republic of Iran (1 June 2004)

So, the question is still unanswered.
[FONT=&quot]But the question was answered in the next year:[/FONT]
Page 4, last paragraph… ”12. On 21 May 2005, the Agency received from another Member State a number of centrifuge components, environmental sampling of which was thought might provide information on the origin of the LEU and HEU particle contamination found at various locations in Iran. The analysis of swipe samples taken from those components, which was carried out at the Agency’s Safeguards Analytical Laboratory (SAL), was completed in early August 2005. Based on the information currently available to the Agency, the results of that analysis tend, on balance, to support Iran’s statement about the foreign origin of most of the observed HEU contamination.”
http://www.isisnucleariran.org/assets/pdf/iaea-iranreport-090205.pdf

HEU: high enriched uranium
LEU: low enriched uranium
SAL: Safeguards Analytical Laboratory, Seibersdorf, Austria
So be more careful about your sources in future.
If Iran's nuclear research is only peacefull then why are they enriching uranium to 20% (not needed) and why are they testing nuclear missile warhead designs?
[FONT=&quot]20% enriched uranium is used for medical purposes. When it was finished in Iran, Iran requested from IAEA to prepare it for her and as per IAEA rules, IAEA must have done it. But as I said before, IAEA is in west countries control and as their order IAEA said to Iran we give you the 20% enriched uranium if you give us your 3.5% enriched uranium. Since this request was illegal, Iran started producing 20% enriched uranium herself. And as Ahmadinejad said two month before we can stop producing 20% enriched uranium if they sell it us without any condition.[/FONT]

hat's not completely true. The west is concerned about a conflict in the middle east because of the world wide consequences. Do not forget that without western pressure on Israel they would have already attacked.
[FONT=&quot]If they are care about the world wide consequences, it is better to destroy their nuclear weapons instead of depriving other countries from their legal rights. NUCLEAR ENERGY FOR EVERYONE, NUCLEAR WEAPON FOR NO ONE.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]If Israel dared to carry out it, he would have done it before ten times, as she did in Iraq and Syria.
[/FONT]

That is allowed. A country is free to criticise another country.
[FONT=&quot]Yes, that is allowed. But it is silly to be care for a [/FONT]killer[FONT=&quot] or a thief who doesn’t observe the city rules while he is objecting to a citizen who observes the city rules but is objecting about the city management.[/FONT]
Iran's enrichment activities are illegal because of UN Security Counsil Resolutions, which are binding.
[FONT=&quot]Enrichment activities are legal, making nuclear weapons is illegal which Iran is doing the first one, but the Israel did the second one.[/FONT]
What should other countries do when a country declares to wipe you of the map?
[FONT=&quot]Iran has never said that she want to wipe out Israel from the world. This is a big lie. Iran always says the Palestinians are the real original owner of occupied Palestine and they must come back to their homeland and they should decide about the Jews who immigrated.[/FONT]
You do not control your region, only your country. Your jurisdiction stops at your borders.
[FONT=&quot]As a European should be more care about the Europe than an Asian, I should be more care about ME than a European.[/FONT]
 
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[FONT=&quot]But the question was answered in the next year:[/FONT]
Page 4, last paragraph… ”12. On 21 May 2005, the Agency received from another Member State a number of centrifuge components, environmental sampling of which was thought might provide information on the origin of the LEU and HEU particle contamination found at various locations in Iran. The analysis of swipe samples taken from those components, which was carried out at the Agency’s Safeguards Analytical Laboratory (SAL), was completed in early August 2005. Based on the information currently available to the Agency, the results of that analysis tend, on balance, to support Iran’s statement about the foreign origin of most of the observed HEU contamination.”
http://www.isisnucleariran.org/assets/pdf/iaea-iranreport-090205.pdf

HEU: high enriched uranium
LEU: low enriched uranium
SAL: Safeguards Analytical Laboratory, Seibersdorf, Austria
So be more careful about your sources in future.

My source was the IAEA itself. The same document also says :

45. With respect to the first issue — contamination — as indicated above, based on the information currently available to the Agency, the results of the environmental sample analysis tend, on balance, to support Iran’s statement about the foreign origin of most of the observed HEU contamination. It is still not possible at this time, however, to establish a definitive conclusion with respect to all of the contamination, particularly the LEU contamination. This underscores the importance of additional work on the scope and chronology of Iran’s P-1 and P-2 centrifuge programmes, which could greatly contribute to the resolution of the remaining contamination issues.

About the contamination issue at the university the IAEA said : Therefore, the
Agency considers those questions no longer outstanding at this stage
Implementation of the NPT Safeguards - 22 February 2008


[FONT=&quot]20% enriched uranium is used for medical purposes. When it was finished in Iran, Iran requested from IAEA to prepare it for her and as per IAEA rules, IAEA must have done it. But as I said before, IAEA is in west countries control and as their order IAEA said to Iran we give you the 20% enriched uranium if you give us your 3.5% enriched uranium. Since this request was illegal, Iran started producing 20% enriched uranium herself. And as Ahmadinejad said two month before we can stop producing 20% enriched uranium if they sell it us without any condition.[/FONT]

Well the problem is the UN resolutions. No one is allowed to sell that fuel to Iran. The resolutions are binding, and the ones who are able to sell that to Iran abide by those resolutions. To solve this matter the fastest way is for Iran to abide by the UN resolutions. Stop the enrichment.

[FONT=&quot]If they are care about the world wide consequences, it is better to destroy their nuclear weapons instead of depriving other countries from their legal rights. NUCLEAR ENERGY FOR EVERYONE, NUCLEAR WEAPON FOR NO ONE.[/FONT]

I agree with you, but only if the IAEA has broader powers so military sites researching nuclear related stuff can be destroyed.

[FONT=&quot]If Israel dared to carry out it, he would have done it before ten times, as she did in Iraq and Syria.
[/FONT]

Do not underestimate the daring of Israel.

[FONT=&quot]Yes, that is allowed. But it is silly to be care for a murder or a thief who doesn’t observe the city rules while he is objecting to a citizen who observes the city rules but is objecting about the city management.[/FONT]

It's a little different. Israel didn't signed the protocol so it does not have to follow it (my point of view is they must sign that protocol), Iran did, but it is not following it like it should be.

[FONT=&quot]Enrichment activities are legal, making nuclear weapons is illegal which Iran is doing the first one, but the Israel did the second one.[/FONT]

Let me say it this way. In the middle east no one trust each other. Maybe they should work on that one first. The west and Israel doesn't trust Iran, as are some Arab countries. And other countries don't trust Israel. I hope it turns out as during the cold war when the west and the USSR didn't trust each other. We both were defending ourselves for something the other side was not going to do.

[FONT=&quot]Iran has never said that she want to wipe out Israel from the world. This is a big lie. Iran always says the Palestinians are the real original owner of occupied Palestine and they must come back to their homeland and they should decide about the Jews who immigrated.[/FONT]

Wipe Israel 'off the map' Iranian says. That's the article that started it all. A Washington Post article says this : "Cole said this week that in the 1980s Khomeini gave a speech in which he said in Persian “Een rezhim-i eshghalgar-i Quds bayad az sahneh-i ruzgar mahv shaved.” This means, “This occupation regime over Jerusalem must vanish from the arena of time.” But then anonymous wire service translators rendered Khomeini as saying that Israel “must be wiped off the face of the map,” which Cole and Nourouzi say is inaccurate."
I tried to translate the Persian sentence with Google Translate but nothing came out of it. Maybe you can help.

[FONT=&quot]As a European should be more care about the Europe than an Asian, I should be more care about ME than a European.[/FONT]

We are living in a worldwide economy. Borders diminish. It is better to open up than to isolate yourself.
 
They were making nuclear bombs? so what who doesn't have nuclear bombs nowadays, and when Ahmadinejad said he was going to wipe Israel off the map he was joking. What Iran is doing isn't that big of a deal and i have been following your posts about Israel VDKMS. Would you happen to be Jewish your opinion seems very biased
 
They were making nuclear bombs? so what who doesn't have nuclear bombs nowadays,and when Ahmadinejad said he was going to wipe Israel off the map he was joking. What Iran is doing isn't that big of a deal and i have been following your posts about Israel VDKMS. Would you happen to be Jewish your opinion seems very biased

I will allow VDKMS to respond your thinking of him being biased.

Saying "I will wipe a country off the map" then researching nuclear programs to this extent is not a joke, nor should be taken as one considering the circumstances.

If someone who disagrees with you frequently say "I will come to your house and kill you" and you know this guy has a gun, would you take it as a joke? Do not be silly bud, threats such as those should always be taken seriously. Do not try to downplay this situation.

I also suggest you learn about the NPT, IAEA, etc. Obtaining nukes under these is illegal. Which Iran isn't complying with the IAEA as much as we would all like.

I wish some of you stop forgetting that it is the WORLD that is against Iran and not just U.S and Israel.
 
They were making nuclear bombs? so what who doesn't have nuclear bombs nowadays, and when Ahmadinejad said he was going to wipe Israel off the map he was joking. What Iran is doing isn't that big of a deal and i have been following your posts about Israel VDKMS. Would you happen to be Jewish your opinion seems very biased

Not one drop of blood in me is Jewish.
 
I also suggest you learn about the NPT, IAEA, etc. Obtaining nukes under these is illegal. Which Iran isn't complying with the IAEA as much as we would all like.
And why exactly should they, they don't pay taxes in Iran, and also the US is not complying with UN wishes regarding things like cluster munitions.

I wish some of you stop forgetting that it is the WORLD that is against Iran and not just U.S and Israel.
For you, the "world" is the US and Israel. I've never heard of Paraguay, or China or Ireland or any number of countries voicing their hatred of Iran. If the US was to give up their support of Israel, I think that you'd find all of their allies would too.

Your problem is that you believe too much of your own propaganda.
 
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