Getting a Pilots slot in the USAF




 
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November 10th, 2004  
CESSNA
 

Topic: Getting a Pilots slot in the USAF


I'm 17 years old with a private pilots license and have my eyes set on the Air Force. I I have a 3.6 GPA and probably will not be accepted to the Air Force Academy and am therefore am probably going to Embry Riddle in Prescott. I have 20/20 20/30 vision and everything else is fine. My question is what is the best way to get a pilots slot. Should I enroll in AFROTC and try for the GPA and class rank to get a pilots slot, or should I go through OTC. I have also given the ANG a thought. From what I have been told my recruters, I am not sure what the best option is and any comments would be appreciated.
November 10th, 2004  
egoz
 
This is what I was told. But I was told the selection process for pilots goes like this: Academy grads, OCS, ROTC. I guess as ROTC since you have the least amount of military experience, you're last in line for the good spots. At the moment the AF is pretty tight on picking up recruits. So your best bet is to pick whatever path you want and excel at it. You really need to stand out to get an AF aviator slot at the moment.

I got into ERAU Prescott and Daytona campuses too. I chose College Park though (Aero Egr major). I guess with your PPL you're choosing aviation as your major? If you do that I'd attempt the military option available and talk to as many recruiters about it as you can. Even better, talk to former military pilots (I'm sure there are a few on campus), they'll give you better information than a recruiter.
November 26th, 2004  
Gorfour20
 

Topic: Re: Getting a Pilots slot in the USAF


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Originally Posted by CESSNA
I'm 17 years old with a private pilots license and have my eyes set on the Air Force. I I have a 3.6 GPA and probably will not be accepted to the Air Force Academy and am therefore am probably going to Embry Riddle in Prescott. I have 20/20 20/30 vision and everything else is fine. My question is what is the best way to get a pilots slot. Should I enroll in AFROTC and try for the GPA and class rank to get a pilots slot, or should I go through OTC. I have also given the ANG a thought. From what I have been told my recruters, I am not sure what the best option is and any comments would be appreciated.
Glad I saw this. I am a GSIS (Global Security Intelligence Studies) major at ERAU-Prescott formerly AS (Aeronautical Science-Pilot). I have my PPL but decided that flying for a living wasn't my thing, yet.

But, what I am getting to is I am a recruiter up at ERAU AFROTC Det 028. What I would say for your options is that going here is a great idea for your selection. If you keep your GPA good and your class rank is good, you'll get it. ERAU has a great selection rate into UPT. Any other questions just contact me.
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November 28th, 2004  
egoz
 
Since you're an AFROTC recruiter, I have a question. When you join the AF after graduating. Do you get to pick your job as an officer or is it assigned to you? From everything that I've heard when you graduate the AF picks the job for you.
November 28th, 2004  
Gorfour20
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by egoz
Since you're an AFROTC recruiter, I have a question. When you join the AF after graduating. Do you get to pick your job as an officer or is it assigned to you? From everything that I've heard when you graduate the AF picks the job for you.
You pick your top 3 choices. Then it gets sent to the USAF, you're ranked upon your peers on grades, commanders ranking, PFT score, AFOQT score and some other things. Based on that you get what they decide per your ranking.

So if you're a slacker, you're probably going to be personnel or missle man in a silo all alone. If you're good to go a pilot is for you.
November 28th, 2004  
egoz
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gorfour20
You pick your top 3 choices. Then it gets sent to the USAF, you're ranked upon your peers on grades, commanders ranking, PFT score, AFOQT score and some other things. Based on that you get what they decide per your ranking.

So if you're a slacker, you're probably going to be personnel or missle man in a silo all alone. If you're good to go a pilot is for you.
along those lines...
i was told that those out of AFA get first picks for pilot, next is OCS, then finally is ROTC. based on that, wouldn't the slots for AF pilots be limited? then, wouldn't your choice at what you want to fly be even more limited at that?
November 28th, 2004  
Gorfour20
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by egoz
along those lines...
i was told that those out of AFA get first picks for pilot, next is OCS, then finally is ROTC. based on that, wouldn't the slots for AF pilots be limited? then, wouldn't your choice at what you want to fly be even more limited at that?
Sort of....

Lets say there are 1200 slots for pilots. (This has no info backing, just using numbers easy to show what happens)

500 slots go to USAFA
500 go to AFROTC
200 go to OTS/USAF (Active duty)

Now USAFA has lets say 700 people in a grad class. That means 200 won't get slots. 500 will.

And then AFROTC has 2000 in their nation-wide commissioning. 500 get slots, 1500 don't.

This is why its easier in USAFA to get them then in AFROTC. True the fact, though, that USAF looks at AFROTC first if they are going to make less slots. USAFA is like the USAF baby, they usually get what they want.
November 29th, 2004  
egoz
 
is there a certain ratio that the military likes to keep when selecting these positions? i realize the numbers are ficticious, but you have 200 OTS candidates vs the 500 from rotc and 500 from AFA. i realize you might not know this because it's other services, but are these the same for other branches? i assume the selection process is similar?
November 29th, 2004  
Gorfour20
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by egoz
but are these the same for other branches? i assume the selection process is similar?
Well, a great leader has humility. I don't know.

But the reason I gave OTS 200 is because they don't graduate all that many people there and now they (USAF) are getting more stringent on OTS slots.
December 3rd, 2004  
CESSNA
 
Well thanks for the information, looks like ROTC is the way to go. I am still in the process of applying to ERAU with an aeronautical science degree with a military pilot specialty.

I have 2 cousins in freshmen and sophmore year of college doing AFROTC as well and another going in behind me. That means there is four of us and the acceptance rate is 1 out of four. Well see how it goes!