french military history - Page 2




 
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Boots
 
March 14th, 2005  
A Can of Man
 
 
Mostly it was the Foreign Legion when it involves France fighting and its finest moments... where only the officers are French. I think in the past the senior sergeants were also French but I'm not sure.
Their finest moments include campaigns in Mexico.
The two saddest moments for the Foreign Legion were when France lost Algeria (pretty much the birth place of the Foreign Legion) and also Dien Bien Phu. Dien Bien Phu was a death sentence from the instant the place was assigned. Don't think they surrendered there. They fought hard but it was in vain. I dont' think anyone could have won in DBP anyways on the defending side.
March 14th, 2005  
Whispering Death
 
 
Ha ha ha I loved how they pointed out how the Maginot Line never defended against the path that the Germans have ALWAYS taken when invading france
March 14th, 2005  
Pierrot
 
hmm OK i'll answer to some topics :
->"War of Revolution
Tied. Frenchmen take to wearing red flowerpots as chapeaux."

Hmm a certain Napoléon must hold the line in the North of Italy and finally went until Vienna...

->"The Napoleonic Wars
-Lost. Temporary victories (remember the First Rule!) due to leadership of a Corsican, who ended up being no match for a British footwear designer."
right but contrary to Hitler, Napoléon arrived at Moscow.

-> "The Franco-Prussian War
Lost. Germany first plays the role of drunk Frat boy to France's ugly girl home alone on a Saturday night."
True.

->"World War I
Tied and on the way to losing, France is saved by the United States. Thousands of French women find out what it's like to not only sleep with a winner, but one who doesn't call her "Fraulein." Sadly, widespread use of condoms by American forces forestalls any improvement in the French bloodline."
False : UK and France would have won anyway, but OK this war would have not ended in 1918 in that case.

->"World War II
Lost. Conquered French liberated by the United States and Britain just as they finish learning the Horst Wessel Song."

Right, but contrary to some believes, the french Army had, in some fields, best gears than the German Army. But the chief of staff (Gammelin) was a useless person. (cf the doctrine of MBT use wat out-of-date)...

->" War in Indochina
Lost. French forces plead sickness; take to bed with the Dien Bien Flu
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Right, but concerning the USA after ?

"-> Algerian Rebellion
Lost. Loss marks the first defeat of a western army by a Non-Turkic Muslim force since the Crusades, and produces the First Rule of Muslim Warfare; "We can always beat the French." This rule is identical to the First Rules of the Italians, Russians, Germans, English, Dutch, Spanish, Vietnamese and Esquimaux"

yes and no. The war was military won, but politically lost. Perhaps like Iraq ?

Bien cordialement.
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Boots
March 14th, 2005  
Pierrot
 
Quote:
Mostly it was the Foreign Legion when it involves France fighting and its finest moments... where only the officers are French. I think in the past the senior sergeants were also French but I'm not sure.
no about 20% of the troops are french, but they get the belgian or monégasque (from Monaco if you want) nationality when they arrive in the Legion, because it is officially forbidden to enroll frenchmen in the Legion (except officers).
March 15th, 2005  
Focus Fate
 
I love when the French try to defend thier history, it makes me laugh
March 15th, 2005  
Redneck
 
 
I love it when I'm about to ban someone, that makes me laugh too.
March 15th, 2005  
Redleg
 
 
I'll let this one stay unlocked (for now).

But I would advice you to stay on topic and present valid (and confirmed) information regarding French military history from now on.

NO country bashing of any kind will be tolerated, and it will lead to an immediate ban!

Thanks.
March 15th, 2005  
Charge 7
 
 
Well, judging from the site in the link provided in the post that started this topic, I'd say it's been country bashing from the beginning.
March 15th, 2005  
Whispering Death
 
 
Yeah, it was meant to be in the general section for a laugh, don't think it's really a good link for a scholarly study of French military history
March 15th, 2005  
Zucchini
 
Maybe what we need is a topic called "Myths of History".

One of the biggests is the absolutely silly notion that the United States won WWI, or saved anybody. That is just silly.

We made a contribution. Forced to pick between minor and major, I would have to pick minor: a minor contribution.

France's contribution toward defeating Germany in WWI was gigantic.

Put in the same shoes, there is no proof the United States could stand up to that level of casualties. We have never had to face that sort of thing. When we have fought, it is usually against a 3rd-rate power, or a power that has been bled out by another ally.