French Foreign Legion

I3BrigPvSk said:
Damn you, 42RM! You mean he doesn't exist? You are ruining my perceptions of the world!:shock:
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Sadly not since 2000...

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Peturstanislav said:
Well Primus i know a guy that joined the legion in the 70' i think and he had hep and now he is highly ranked in the legion, and I have heard that guys get in if they really show that they wanna be legioners.. That is what I have heard... but then I will have to follow my plan, finish collage and move the the U.S and join the army there. Only army i know of that allows people with Hep b to join if they pass medical waiver which is basicly to see if it is effecting my health, if not then i will get a green light and get in 'cause all military personnel get vaccine when they join have i heard :) It is so bad that only the U.S army is doing that, or i think so.. if you can get immune by one shot why not do that and open a wider circle..
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Were I you. I'd take his word for it. In all probability the person he asked does or did wear a Kepi Blanc. And the 70's mean sh*t as far as recruitment standards today.
 
So what happens if you do join and have to take pills to stay healthy? What happens if you end up in Afghanistan at a combat outpost that is literally in the middle of a mountain range? I'll tell you what the hell happens, you don't get your frickin medicine, you get sick, or catch malaria, and then your platoon is short one more person because you have to be medevaced out of theater.

I don't know who you talked to as a recruiter, but he is wrong. You can't get in with Hep B. The vaccines they give are only effective if administered BEFORE contamination.
 
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Okay brinktk do you really think i would be sick so quick ? of course i could catch malaria like everybody else and many do, but people with hep b should have weak immune system, but i have been watch by a specialist and he says its getting better and better, my liver is doing well, and its not active as we speak, i have like 30% of the virus not more. I get sick for 4 days max a year good shape, good health, dont drink, dont use drugs.. just saying not all people with hep b are weak and dying... and pills to stay healthy dude please what is that ? I only take vitiamins and if you call that some medicine then go read a little bit more about it sir.
 
Peturstanislav said:
Okay brinktk do you really think i would be sick so quick ? of course i could catch malaria like everybody else and many do, but people with hep b should have weak immune system, but i have been watch by a specialist and he says its getting better and better, my liver is doing well, and its not active as we speak, i have like 30% of the virus not more. I get sick for 4 days max a year good shape, good health, dont drink, dont use drugs.. just saying not all people with hep b are weak and dying... and pills to stay healthy dude please what is that ? I only take vitiamins and if you call that some medicine then go read a little bit more about it sir.
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Listen mate
The military does not give a flying f*** what you think or believe
If you are not up to the standards they demand, you're f***ed

Some of us here who have been in combat knows how hard it is for your body and you have no idea how much stress your system can take before it breaks down.

You have an disease that makes you unfit to become a soldier. End of story! Live with it!
 
I think your temper would get you killed in combat, of course i dont know how it is to be in combat and you dont know **** about me, i think i can handle a little bit more then you think.. I don't give up or quit and i wont do it on this, when i am in the army one day i will write back to you on this website and tell you how wrong you were.. lets talk then, you really talk like your about 16 years old
 
And on that day, everyone here will most likely congratulate you on beating the odds and wish you luck in your career. If you really feel like you've got something to prove by coming back here and telling us all "told you so", then go right for it. Honestly, it's not going to hurt any of us.

You came here with questions. You've gotten your answers. I'm sorry that they aren't what you wanted to hear.
 
As 42RM stated, combat conditions put your body into a severly compromised state. Every single time I have deployed I have lost about 1/5 of my body mass and had one affliction or another from dysentary, colitis, to unknown sicknesses that brought me to my knees. What happens if you're shot? Or blown up? Now every single person who comes in contact with your blood is at risk, even if they've had the vaccine. You're immune system is operating at optimal levels now, in perfect conditions...what about when you've gone weeks without a shower, you're burning 3-4000 calories a day from humping up and down mountains with 40-50 kilos of equipment for weeks on end, your water supply may consist of dropping halozone tablets into parasitic water, and mosquitoes and flies crawl all over you all the time? This environment will break down even the fittest of soldiers. Now you expect a military to take a chance that may eventually cost lives so you can fullfill your dream?


There are no do overs in combat and very few second chances. The battlefield is not the place to find out if you've got what it takes based off of what YOU think. Everyone thinks they're the exception to the rule until the chips are down and bullets are cracking by their head. Then, when the stench of bile, burning bodies, and death meets your nostrils and the vision of fly infested decapitated human remains meets your eyes you quickly find out that you are no better and no less immune to the travesty of war.

42RM, 03USMC, myself and many others on here have bared witness to all of this over the years and we are telling you how it is. You need to check the attitude at the door because in our line of work conjecture is meaningless, experience is hard earned and should be adhered to.
 
Under NO circomstances will you be able to join the FFL with hepatitis.
End of story.

I doubt you will find any military that will take you knowing you are prior infected.

For all the reasons posted above, plus this one.
What military in the world would order a medic/doc/corpsman to work on an infected individual that has an open GSW in theater.
The answer is none.
They would probably do it anyways, knowing the risk they take. That´s just the type of men they are.
But could you look that man you infected with a lifelong decease in the eye afterwards if he was able to save your sorry arse?
If you could your personality is all wrong for the military and you´ll be weeded out during the process anyways.

I hope you find something fullfilling to do with your life wherever you end up..

KJ sends...
 
In 1979 I was an Army Recruiter in FL. A prior service guy came in and wanted to join the FFL. I had just read a book about them which had a contact in Miami for them, I gave it to him and never heard from him again.
 
KJ you know adults wont get chronic hepatitis if i would infect someone like you said.. it is very very unlikley that it would happen ... so clearly you dont know what you are talking about, i had it since i was a infant and i have collected some information on this.
 
Brinktk why do you think i want to join the army ? i want to do those things, i like when things get hard and you have to go and go and go... I have wished everyday since i was little that i could do something worthy and something that would give me joy and people would look up to me, something honorable, and treat me with respect.. There is nothing else that i think of, adults are very unlikley to get hepatitis for life, I want to join the army for experience and dignity so dont tell me what i can or cannot handle or what i can or cannot do.. It runs in my blood, my uncles, my grandfathers and their fathers were in the military. I am not trying to be mean, it's just breaks me down when people can't just say no but dont give up your hope, instead of being couple of grown up guys you answer with really shitty attitude and that's not dicipline if you guys are making fun of hepatitis... Nice to know that there are soldiers out there that clearly behave like kids
 
Sigh...kids...you compare us to kids...

You want us to tell you that it's ok and that all is ok in the world and if you really really want this you will make it...like it will all magically change just for you.

You are not special. You are not the exception. Why should I even consider taking a chance on you when there are much more motivated and qualified individuals who actually listen and are not infected with a disease that can seriously compromise their performance and the morale of my unit?

You're not hearing what we are saying. This is a pipedream. It's not going to happen. I'm not going to sit here and stroke your ego and build your self esteem like a child. I am a soldier. If you have a problem with me or others who have clearly stated to you these harsh truths then you have no business in the military anyways. Guys like me, 42RM, 03USMC, AFSteliga, etc are who you will have to deal with in the military. We don't mince words. We don't sugar coat truths. We talk straight and call it like we see it.

We are in the business of killing and being killed. Everything we do effects the lives of the soldiers we serve with and the civilians we are sworn to protect. I'm not going to sit here and hold your hand, and pat you on the head, telling you all will be well and everything will be okay. This is the real world and we play by big boy rules. Do not pretend to have the faintest clue as to the trepidations of combat. You don't! It's easy to think you would love this or that but the fact is you don't really know until the moment of truth when the **** hits the fan. So quit with the romantic notions of what you think you know.

When I was an instructor I saw guys with your attitude all the time. All piss and vinegar. All so sure they were the ones to break the mold, to conquer the world all by themselves. And they were the ones who ended up alienating themselves from their fellow soldiers or ended up realizing very quickly they were not as good as they thought.

You, my friend, are acting as a child. You ask the advice and counsel of seasoned, combat hardened, soldiers and when we don't give you the rainbows and unicorns answer you want then you accuse us of being big mean childish meanie heads. You have a lot to learn about how the world works...good luck.
 
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Let us assume you are accepted into the FFL, you will most likely be deployed to Africa, where you will be exposed to pathogens you have never been exposed to before. The microbiological environment there is way different than the one your body is used to. If you take medicine as a protection toward Malaria for an example; this will influence your liver function seriously, all medicine will influence your liver. The pathogens will without mercy attack your weakest part, probably you will not survive the meeting with these viruses, bacterias, and a real problem in many tropical and sub-tropical areas around the world; the parasites. If you are wounded in action you might transmit this contagious disease to others, especially if the medic has more wounded to take care of. Furthermore, even if you are feeling quite ok right now, you will need to meet an infectious disease physician, gastroenterologist, or a hepatologist regularly. There are many other careers you can consider, but to be in the service is not one of them, not in the Law Enforcement, Para-Rescue, Firefighter, an ER, and not even to work in a professional kitchen. There are many other jobs where you can develop yourself and live a good life
 
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I think someone has stars in his eyes after reading too many Boy's Own Annual stories about the FFL.

If he hasn't the CDF to listen to those who might have a damn sight better idea of what he's up against, I'd say, "Let him learn the hard way", some people just need to make all their own mistakes.

Obviously he hasn't contacted their recruiting agency yet as they would answer his questions straight up, I would have thought that anyone with any real initiative would have contacted them first. Personally I'd say it's more likely he's a dreamer trying to impress those on this site rather than anyone with any real desire to actually do it.
 
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senojekips said:
I think someone has stars in his eyes after reading too many Boy's Own Annual stories about the FFL.

If he hasn't the CDF to listen to those who might have a damn sight better idea of what he's up against, I'd say, "Let him learn the hard way", some people just need to make all their own mistakes.
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Agreed. Maybe we'll finally learn what happens when an unstoppable force meets an immovable object...
 
If I can see it, then I can do it.

If I just believe it, there's nothing to it.

I believe I can fly.

I believe I can touch the sky.

I think about it every night and day.

Did someone just mention Icarus??
 
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