Flipping The Bird: Origin of Gesture - Page 2

June 17th, 2006  
Wing Nut
that not quite right. They would cut of both the index and middle finger, which is why in England showing these to fingers to someone will cuase a big upstart where as most other countries it doesn't regester as much if anything at all (except france) When I first came to china, I didn't know the chinese counted the number two on the fingers like we two finger salute the french and I almost twotted the guy..

Funny thing really is they think with the palm facing inwards it is still the sign for peace so I have seen numerous Chinese people pose like this.. That Always makes me giggle.
July 4th, 2006  

Topic: V-sign

I thought this was the origin of the v-sign for victory? The English longbowmen showing the french that they still had their fingers because they won by Agincourt?

December 6th, 2006  
Actually, that's an urban legend (see http://www.snopes.com/language/apocryph/pluckyew.htm & http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a980904.html). The gesture dates back to at least Roman times -- they called the middle finger digitus impudicus (the impudent finger) or digitus infamis (the infamous finger). I read -- I cannot remember where -- that it is a phallic reference; apparently the "thumbs up" gesture is the equivalent offensive gesture to Arabs, for the same reason.