FIFA World Cup anyone? - Page 24




 
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July 10th, 2006  
Italian Guy
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien435
One bright note out of this. Italy beat every team they came up against except one, anybody remember what team that was?
Uhm yeah, we didn't really want to kick a friend's ass, y'know .
July 10th, 2006  
Ollie Garchy
 
 
A few words concerning the Italian football team & the lessons one can draw from their victories:

1. Violence as central defensive characteristic. Smash opponents in the face. Constantly mow them down whilst they run. Kick, lunge, and get in the way. Do NOT play the ball. A few yellow and red cards are acceptable. Utilize all body parts including the tongue.

2. If in doubt, fall down. If it seems that opposing players are getting the upper hand, foul them or simply fall down. Many a game can even be won this way (vs. Australia, etc.). In any case, constant disruptions to game flow will ensure that you can break the opposing team's spirit. The "super experts" will even congratulate this type of behaviour.

3. Taunt and pinch opposing players as often as possible. Opposing players seem to take great offense at being rubbed, tweaked, pinched, kicked, bitten, etc. Therefore, do it as often as possible. Some opponents will even crack. The great Zidane was only the icing on the cake.

4. If in doubt, mobilize the Italian press to help. Yes, Germany had the 12th man. But Italy had much more. They used their exceptional skills to manipulate officials, searched for ways to generate red cards off the field, and even mobilized domestic resources to pressure fifa and manufacture a victory.

Italy a great side? Yes they are. They are so much more than just a football team. They KNOW how to win. Just look at how the Italian league operates. Their national team is just a reflection of this ethos.

Congratulations, Italy. I like your twisted way of playing football.
July 10th, 2006  
Italian Guy
 
 
I love the spirit and the fairness of some Germans who accepted the victory of Italy at the World Cup.
Why should a German be pissed off about Italy winning? Uhm, hold on a sec, who kicked Germany's butt in the first place?
Oh ok, now it makes sense.
Zinedine Zidane resorted to a hard headbutt on Materazzi's chest and yet the Italians are the violent ones, oh gee.
Come on, you're still third place.
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July 10th, 2006  
loki
 
Still its true, I can't remember any game with Italy involved that didn't get nasty. Anyway against Germany they were the better team but yesterday France should have won. Kudos for their comeback in the second half.
July 10th, 2006  
Italian Guy
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by loki
Still its true, I can't remember any game with Italy involved that didn't get nasty.
You haven't watched too many games, have ya?
Oops, you're German as well.
July 10th, 2006  
mmarsh
 
 
Italian Guy

I think Oillie has a bit of a point. I watched all the Italian games

1. The elbow to Brian Mcbride was deliberate. Thats why it got de Rossi a 4 game suspension.

2. Taking a dive. This one is my biggest issue with Italy. I commented on this before if you check back a few pages during the Semi and Quarter finals. There were clear instances that the Italian players were faking fouls. The worst was the game against Australia where there was absolutly no contact, and the dive resulted in the game winning goal. There were also some well staged theatrics against the USA as well. After watching the USA game, I was absolutly disgusted with Italy. And it continued throughout the Cup. The next world cup the refs have to start handing out Red Cards for players faking fouls, it was out of control this tournament.

3. About the insults. The only thing I can say about this is that Masterzzi obviously said something to Zidane that pissed him off. You can tell by watching the video, Zidane is walking way, then all of the sudden he quickly spins around and headbutts him. The NYTimes is reporting that Materzzi used a racial slur and if thats the case there should have been 2 red cards. Whatever the case, Zidane shouldnt have headbutted him, but Materzzi isnt completely innocent either. The sports commentator said that the Italians had been pestering Zidane all night, they wanted to get Zidane out of the game, hook or by crook.

Damien435

I dunno how you can say that. Italy only faced 2 teams that presented any real challenge, you cannot tell me that facing Australia and Ukraine (both of which have never been in the WC before) was a equal match up Spain, Portugal or Brazil. All the teams deserved to be in the WC, but its totally false to say they were all equal. The truth is Italy got lucky in the group it was in.
July 10th, 2006  
Italian Guy
 
 
Lol you guys are cracking me up.
Uhm first off, I assumed Loki was talking about ALL the games Italy has ever played. If he was referring to the World Cup only, he's still wrong though.
My impression is that most of you guys don't have a brilliant background of playing or watching soccer games.
Everybody tries to fake fouls, are you trying to say we are the only ones? Seems to me like some of you guys are used to watch Russian classical ballets.
We had a referee in the field and he wasn't a friend of ours. The penalty kick assigned to France last night was NOT right. It was wrong if you just watch the scene, only thing is the referee was way behind the players and couldnt see well. And also, last night, the referee was about to let Zidane get away with the headbutt hadn't the linesman seen it and told him.
About the insults, yeah oooooh Materazzi said something to Zidane that pissed him off... little Zidane reacted in such a civil manner that showed all the world how the French can be fair and calm.
Like I said, we had a referee on the field and everybody could see he was not a friend of ours.
Now stop whining and put your leotard back on (except for your players who will have to put their helmets on).
July 10th, 2006  
loki
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Italian Guy
You haven't watched too many games, have ya?
Yes I have.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Italian Guy
Oops, you're German as well.
Well spotted.


Anyway if Germany had won I wouldn't want anyone to criticize them, deseverdly or not. I just think Italy played very aggressively throughout the tournament and not always fair. And the penalty was of course right, and if the ref. had been consequent they would have gotten a second one in the second half. Btw, did you see the ref and those Italian players stand around after the 90 minutes, chatting and drinking from the same bottle? Seemed to me a bit more familiarity than desirable.
July 10th, 2006  
Italian Guy
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by loki
And the penalty was of course right
You have evidently missed the scene.

Quote:
Originally Posted by loki
Btw, did you see the ref and those Italian players stand around after the 90 minutes, chatting and drinking from the same bottle? Seemed to me a bit more familiarity than desirable.
Innuendo? Hey and did you see our captain shaking hands with the FIFA President Blatter at the end of the game? And they even gave them some kind of cup... oh well, definitely too much familiarity..mmmhh let's try to find out more.
July 10th, 2006  
loki
 
See, its all one big conspiracy!





No really, I'm not saying that means anything, it just seemed odd to me.
 


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