A few questions about WW2. - Page 4




 
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February 9th, 2014  
George
 
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Originally Posted by udaka
.Such dirty tactics was not honorable and inhumane, this kind of opponent wasn't worthy of respect. Of course, the Yankees dare not to face final battle on Japanese homeland, killing 200,000 civilians with nuclear weapons, this wasn't a commendable and honorable act.
And what were the estimates of casualties if we had invaded the Home Islands? 2 million dead/wounded?
February 10th, 2014  
lljadw
 
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Originally Posted by udaka
Of course, the Yankees dare not to face final battle on Japanese homeland, killing 200,000 civilians with nuclear weapons, this wasn't a commendable and honorable act.
The usual boy-scout stupidities:the unintentionally killing of civilians in wartime is inevitable and legal.

Commendable,honorable:
February 10th, 2014  
udaka
 
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Originally Posted by lljadw
The usual boy-scout stupidities:the unintentionally killing of civilians in wartime is inevitable and legal.

Commendable,honorable:

What is wrong with you? use atomic bomb attak civiians was unintentionally? Sorry, I am not very familiar the ww2 history occured in Europe area. But according the public materials of western.
The British and US airforce bombed the Dresden and massacre 150 thousands cilivians of Genman. was that unintentionally?
"the reports in wartime. numerous building, a lot of Banks shop; warehouse; market; hotel;hospital wreck,about 200 factories destrutive.!"

was that legal?
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February 10th, 2014  
udaka
 
I recall a Germanic movie about air strike Dresden,produced 2006! A scene in movie impress me, the civilian of German excute the british pilot immediately as caught them. due to their relatives die at bombs of British pilots.

As why ally air strike Dresden, most points were for destory the German capacity of industrial production..

But a little view claim the air strike was for killed the skilled industrial workers of German as possible. Because blow the factories of enemy, the facotry can rebuild a few days later. But killed a skill worker, you need 10-16 years to cultivate!
Why the industrial production and quality of Japan lower and lower gradually since the war broke out? Except the ally air stike Japan,one reason was many skilled worker recruited in army and die at war!


A civilian of German shoot pilot.

February 10th, 2014  
udaka
 
If American and British land on homeland of Japan, that casualties must unimaginable! Accoding the estimate of US, 1 million soldiers will die and wounded in the invasion. Due to nearly 5 million militia mobilised in Japanese homeland. Even though these troops were new formation! Many of them lack of guns and cannon.


But I think it still serious threat to US and British. First reason, always have soldiers perish in the battle! you don't need equip one soldier one gun.In theory, 10000 Japanese soldiers equip 5000 rifles that is enough! A soldier die at conflict! another Japanese soldier will receive his rifle and continue shoot! Because the air strike! The steel producition of Japanese until 1945 August only 1/4 compare 1944, only 0.98 million tons.but that is enough. Because most of steels ,the Japs use built navy and ships. compare the land force consume steels were less.


0.98 million tons steel.If Japanese built tanks(consume steel much more than artillery) less comparative. It can manufacture millions rifles, tens of thousands 75- 150 mm cannons and mortars.




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Originally Posted by George
And what were the estimates of casualties if we had invaded the Home Islands? 2 million dead/wounded?
February 10th, 2014  
udaka
 
150 MM HOWITZER OF JAPANESE





90mm Mortar of Japs






Artillery, Stalin give their nickname : The lords of war!
February 10th, 2014  
brinktk
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by udaka
If American and British land on homeland of Japan, that casualties must unimaginable! Accoding the estimate of US, 1 million soldiers will die and wounded in the invasion. Due to nearly 5 million militia mobilised in Japanese homeland. Even though these troops were new formation! Many of them lack of guns and cannon.


But I think it still serious threat to US and British. First reason, always have soldiers perish in the battle! you don't need equip one soldier one gun.In theory, 10000 Japanese soldiers equip 5000 rifles that is enough! A soldier die at conflict! another Japanese soldier will receive his rifle and continue shoot! Because the air strike! The steel producition of Japanese until 1945 August only 1/4 compare 1944, only 0.98 million tons.but that is enough. Because most of steels ,the Japs use built navy and ships. compare the land force consume steels were less.


0.98 million tons steel.If Japanese built tanks(consume steel much more than artillery) less comparative. It can manufacture millions rifles, tens of thousands 75- 150 mm cannons and mortars.

So you agree that at least a million casualties would have been inflicted on the US military.

How many Japanese do you think would have been killed in the process of an invasion?
February 11th, 2014  
LeEnfield
 
 
When General Curtis LeMay fire bombed Tokyo with Napalm over 100.000 Japanese died in this attack far than were killed by both Atomic Bombs that were dropped on Japan, so why all the fuss on dropping the Atom bombs and not the fire bombing of Tokyo
February 11th, 2014  
George
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by LeEnfield
When General Curtis LeMay fire bombed Tokyo with Napalm over 100.000 Japanese died in this attack far than were killed by both Atomic Bombs that were dropped on Japan, so why all the fuss on dropping the Atom bombs and not the fire bombing of Tokyo
I've made the same comment in other Forums! I guess it's because incineration is an established way of killing vs vaporization, or because it's overshadowed by the New Tech attacks (publicity of Hiroshima/Nagasaki vs Tokyo fire bombing)
February 11th, 2014  
udaka
 
If west countries attack the homeland of Japan, their fleet will expose directly the thousands of suicide plans on Japan homeland. In Okinawa,
the suicide plans need to took off from homeland Island. fly serval hundreds miles arrvial Okinawa attacked fleet of west countries. So perhaps the fleets will suffer more serious loss than Okinawa.

Another hands, perhaps the Japanese will abandon the denfense poisition on beach, lead to US troops land on Japan. the main troops of Japs built the strong denfence position in island. At there the US troops couldn't got the strong firepowers suppot from 450mm guns of fleet. These campainge must very hardship.Duo to 60% territory of Japan are mountain and low hill. So, you can't expect the M4 tanks group and armor vichcles excert a great effort in conflict.
 


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