for fans of attila?

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i have searched exhaustively for the name of this feature

http://maps.google.com/local?f=q&hl=en&q=Romania&t=k&ll=45.93008,21.235757&spn=0.035162,0.068836&t=k

http://216.109.132.28/test.jpg
http://216.109.132.28/test1.jpg
http://216.109.132.28/t1.jpg
http://216.109.132.28/t2.jpg
http://216.109.132.28/t3.jpg
http://216.109.132.28/t4.jpg
http://216.109.132.28/t6.jpg

it is called romer schanze [roman earthworks] on this map
http://www.dvhh.org/mercydorf/info/images/Ueberland_Mercydorf_Zsadany.jpg


its not here
cultural memory romania=====================

timis county______________________________________
http://www.cimec.ro/Monumente/ListaMonumentelorIstorice/listaMonIst.htm

see cornesti_______________________________________
http://www.cimec.ro/scripts/mapserv.exe?MAP_LEGEND_STATUS=on&MAP_REFERENCE_STATUS=on&imgext=151353.818750+470295.847500+250111.193750+536134.097500&mapext=&map=%2Fmapserver%2Fmapserver_ro.map&zoomsize=2&zoomdir=1&zoom=2&program=%2Fscripts%2Fmapserv.exe&mode=browse&savequery=true&imgxy=300.0+200.0&qlayer=&qitem=Siruta9&qstring=&jump=&layer=ran&layer=cronica&layer=rauri_poligon&layer=siruta4&layer=lacuri&layer=drumuri_national_judetene&layer=&img.x=309&img.y=234
any ideas?
 
yes sir

the big h, scourge of god himself.

priscus==========================
http://www29.homepage.villanova.edu/christopher.haas/embassy.htm

P.fr .9 Having crossed rivers mighty indeed—namely the Tisia, Tibisia, and Dricca—we came to the place where long ago Vidigoia, the bravest of the Goths, perished by the treachery of the Sarmatians. (This man, also called Vidicula and Indigoia, was one of the subjects of early Gothic lays, and judging by the mention of the Sarmatian-Gothic war he probably died in 331-32 or 334, when the two tribes were fighting during Constantine's reign. The term Sarmatians here indicates a Teutonic people who later included the Vandals, dwelling to the north of the Goths and usually allied to Rome.) Not far from there we reached the village where king Attila was staying, a village, I say, like a very large city, in which we found wooden walls made with smooth planks, their jointure imitating solidity to such an extent that the union of the boards could scarcely be seen by close scrutiny. You might see there dining rooms extended to a liberal circumference and porticoes laid out in all splendor. The area of the courtyard was bounded by a huge circuit wall so that its very size might show it to be the royal palace. This was the house of Attila, the king who held the whole barbarian world, and he preferred this dwelling to the cities captured by him.


from DEATH OF BUDA A Hun Legend ========================
http://www.mek.iif.hu/porta/szint/human/szepirod/magyar/arany/epics/html/epics1.htm


As from the distance one approaches a hive of bees,
he sees a few insects flitting here and there - a
thickening swarm, a darting dance, and then a buzz
and zoom.

The hive booms; in and out the door a thousand
shining bees are crawling back on back. So teem
the swarms of busy men as Attila's town looms up
ahead.

Buda's camp, I think, is nothing compared to these
crowds that come and go and these palaces of Attila
that stretch for miles into the fields, towering
into the heavens.

This is a great range where unbroken stallions run;
a vast field betwixt where warriors train; palace on
corral and palace on corral - it would be hard, indeed,
indeed, to count them all.

At the camp's outer edge stood the servants' tents
with poles of plain fir notched. Farther in, the
tents were finer, the joints fitted smoothly with
a plane.

The palaces of the chieftains are clustered here and
there - so many proud, so many royal homes. Town
within town passes into fields, with green stretches
of distance between.

Women dwell in their secluded towns and rule over
their courts. Krimhilda passes swiftly, if she desires,
over a hanging corridor to her lord Attila's tent.

All this is work of marvellous craft. The awl argues
dead trees into blossoms and new leaves, unlike before,
painted in oil and unfamiliar colors.

The leaves are blood-red, the blossoms gold; branches
twist into hissing dragons where green birds perch
silently, birdlike bells tinkling in their stead.

In the center on a high hill is Attila's tent, the
topmost point shaded by the ancient Turul, tremendous
wings spreading for a flight, and wrought of solid
gold by its maker.

The columns flow to the ceiling, coiling like tendrils
now this way now that, the wood plated with gleaming
gold, and velvet tapestries swelling between.
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in 448 ad, the western roman emperor and the eastern roman emperor both sent an embassy to attila who was threatening to attack one or both.

he brought them to a city which amazed them but no trace of this city has every been found.

in april 1990 i noticed this feature. i have been exhaustively searching for a great period of time for a name of this feature and now with the advent of google maps i can easily show and ask for opinions.

i have considered its stategic placement and apparent population of around 1/2million and cannot come to any conclusion but that it may be the great stan of attila from priscus.

i have also included another reading which loosely places its location.

any military historians with an interest in attila who might offer an opinion, most especially negative opinions, would be appreciated.

it is his 1600th birthday this year.
 
oh, I see...

and you think the city has been found or something?

well anyway, not that of a big fan of Atilla, but I like Military History :)
 
i don't know if its been found or not. not 1 romanian historian etc nor 1 hungarian historian nor anyone i've contacted has ever replied. not 1 in about 40.

the megalthic society was kind enough to look into it and decided it was unknown and of interest
 
i'm trying desperately hard not discover it but i'm running out of options. i would love to see someone take this and run with it then i can watch it on tv.
 
infamous you mean. its publicish land. they demand credentials in archaeology. the application to explore is on the http://www.cimec.ro homepage. if you were crazy, you could probably pick the land up insanely cheap.

i would say it might be very very unpopular there amongst a large group of people however.

why couldn't you investigate it further, if its a good bet, go for it and i'll disappear.
 
wellll.. I got an interest in archeology and thought of being one once....

But hmm.. this senario? seems unplanned and a bit un organized and left... wonder
 
its a lifelong career tackling this. you would certainly be famous, and potentially very wealthy. is there a professor of history at your school that seems really keen on history? there's your partner.
 
well...I am only 18 and I dont know yet.. but whats the percentage of success? I mean what if everything just not there, and I become unfortunate?
 
there is no risk in talking to professionals. you'll know from their reaction if its worth pursuing. don't risk your money, risk your time.

here are your basic facts..

its 3.5milesx2.5miles or 5000acres which is as big as rome or constantinople
the inner ditch and bank earthworks are 300feet in cross section
its not on the official government list of archaeological sites in romania
it appears on an 1836 map as roman earthworks

if that doesn't get their attention then they are deceased.
 
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well it is a large unknown ancient city, maybe claiming its troy would get some attention because noone seems to care otherwise.
 
hmmm... sounds interesting.. but I certainly would look into the matter when I got the time I need.. right now? too much pressure for little me heh..

And it seems that you got some info there.. :)
 
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