EU Constitution rejected by France - Page 2




 
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Boots
 
June 1st, 2005  
KC72
 
 
Now the Dutch have said no.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4601439.stm

This treaty is well dead
June 1st, 2005  
behemoth79
 
 
i think the "no"s will start pouring in now. lots of countries didnt want to be the first to reject it and now that France has rejected it, the floodgates are now opened.
June 1st, 2005  
Darcia
 
Plus French basicly have a monopoly on the Eu with Germany and the UK. If one of them say no to something it is pretty much gone.
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Boots
June 1st, 2005  
Kilgore
 
Doesn't anyone believe that a unite europe is a stronger one?
June 1st, 2005  
KC72
 
 
Quote:
Doesn't anyone believe that a united europe is a stronger one?
not at any price.
June 2nd, 2005  
Darcia
 
The craziest minds in history couldn't Unite Europe,what do these people with all type of degrees think they can do that wasn't tried..
June 2nd, 2005  
gladius
 
From what I heard in the news people are rejecting this because this constitution was going for an even more Socialist Europe.

With a shinking population, having more old people ended up being suported by fewer and fewer younger people in socialist based enocomy heavily supported by heavy taxes and the goverment you can see where this is leading to trouble. They have tried to import workers but this is causing another kind of trouble all its own.

Right now no one in Europe seems to have any political solution for this, at least this is what I gathered from the news.
June 2nd, 2005  
Corocotta
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by gladius
From what I heard in the news people are rejecting this because this constitution was going for an even more Socialist Europe.

With a shinking population, having more old people ended up being suported by fewer and fewer younger people in socialist based enocomy heavily supported by heavy taxes and the goverment you can see where this is leading to trouble. They have tried to import workers but this is causing another kind of trouble all its own.

Right now no one in Europe seems to have any political solution for this, at least this is what I gathered from the news.
Well, I think this is not the reason, the socialist goverments in the power were voted by the people. The main problem is that this Constitution is made by politicians for politicians, and they do not care what people say. We have to notice that every where people were asked about the Constitution the answer was NO, only where the parlaments decided the answer was yes ( of course except Spain, ) You can argue that the parlament represents the people....b******t. They only represent corporations and multinationals. The concept of real democracy is completely devalueted....if ever existed.
June 2nd, 2005  
gladius
 
What is the general concensus though, do people over there still want a United Europe? (But with a better constitution)

From what I gathered both left and right were against the constution. Are there any specific examples that people were against that the politicians wanted?

Is Europe in general trying to get away from being too socialist or are they too locked in to do anything about it? The shrinking work force is going to be a problem for a welfare ridden society in the near future, this was a main concern from some of the people I saw being interviewed, what it had to do exactly with the constitution I'm not quite sure. I find this intresting and would like to know more about what exactly is going on over there with this development.
June 2nd, 2005  
Darcia
 
Well if any placeis to have a Socialist government then it needs to be,should be, and most likely will only be in Europe. That is for alot of reasons,however the one thing the EU keeps forgetting is the nationalism the Europeans feel about there nations,or that just what like to Americans.