ETHICAL PROBLEM




 
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November 20th, 2005  
alpha_angel
 

Topic: ETHICAL PROBLEM


I have this ethical question for other Civil Air Patrol cadets.

I am flight sergeant and I keep catching a female basic cadet flirting with staff officers during break and calling them by their first names. The officers in staff don't even do anything about it and they just flirt back too. I feel very uneasy about this. When I corrected her, she told me she didn't have to address the officers because she was in her civies (she didn't wear her BDUs yet because she doesn't know how to put her insignias on ). Now I remember when I was a basic, if I so much called a staff member by just their last name, I get racked at. She probably thinks she could get away with everything since her dad is a senior member. Something just doesn't seem right. I know that my guts tell me that this totally messes up the professional image of CAP and customs and courtesies. Do I have any responsibility in this?

What should I do if higher ranking cadets are involved?
November 20th, 2005  
c/Commander
 
 
When are these breaks you're talking about...? Are they during events, or just after meetings, etc?
November 21st, 2005  
Sea_Cadet
 
we call this preferential treatment, it's very easy to deal with. That's why you shouldn't have your parents in your unit.
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November 21st, 2005  
c/Commander
 
 
Hooyah to that...

Anyway, put a stop to it. Threaten disciplinary action, to hell with the "senior member".
December 5th, 2005  
youngCAPcadet
 
 
Eh, the one girl who couldn't keep her eyes off of our CC decided not to join, since I was telling her to keep her eyes on her work, not to be staring at the guys the whole time.
December 5th, 2005  
AFSteliga
 
 
'didn't have to address officers'...That's complete crap right there. In uniform, or in civvies, you're still a part of the organization. She is a junior cadet, and the senior staff should know and acknowldege this fact. Correct her actions, and if neccessary, take disciplinary or administrative measures.
December 5th, 2005  
Rob Henderson
 
 
If her father doesnt do anything about it then her father doesnt need to be a part of the organization. I dont know about CAP but here it doesnt matter if you are a C/Colonel or a C/Airman, you still have the power to request disciplinary action. Do something about it, if you know its not right then you should report it to someone. No matter what she thinks of you.
December 8th, 2005  
cpl_clarke
 
 
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Originally Posted by alpha_angel
What should I do if higher ranking cadets are involved?
What should you do? Nothing! It is not the responsibility of a junior ranking cadt to correct these tpes of things. If you really want to do something though, I would suggest talking with someone of high authority, but dont make a big deal over this. The thing about a youth military program is that its not the actual military. Certain rules and regs are bound to be broken cause lets face it, we're teenagers and wether people think so or not, we will screw around when nobody is looking. Im not saying everyone is going to do something so terrible when a high rank turns their back, but having a chat with someone you know and not adressing them properly is bound to happen. I know most of you wish that cadets could be more military and small stuff like this wont happen but lets face it, it does! Just try and shrug it off cause really, what more can you do?
Thats my 2 cents.

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Originally Posted by NCdt Steliga
Correct her actions, and if neccessary, take disciplinary or administrative measures.
Is she in a position to correct the person in question? Because from what I gathered, she did not know what to do in the situation which made me think that she was a subordinate because taking disciplinary and administrative actions would be the most obvious for someone who out ranks them. But even if she is a subordinate rank you culd still correct her actions but in a non-authoritative way.

Mod edit: Don't double post
December 9th, 2005  
AFSteliga
 
 
If non-authoritative methods prove useless, one must go to disciplinary and administrative measures. If you can't employ these on your own, then go to a senior member who has this power.
December 9th, 2005  
Rob Henderson
 
 
i think that the only way to deal with someone is to talk to them personally, one on one, outside the corps and see if they try to change. if they dont do anything then you can talk to a person higher than her and then you can see if she turns herself around