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it was shortage of men, not weapons
http://www.the-numbers.com/movies/2001/ENEMI.htmlTotal US Gross $51,396,781
Production Budget $85,000,000
Worldwide Gross $51,396,781
http://www.the-numbers.com/movies/1998/SVPRI.htmlTotal US Gross $216,335,085
Production Budget $65,000,000
Prints and Advertising Budget $25,000,000
Worldwide Gross $480,000,000
2ndShockarmy said:it was a shortage of men, how can u transport the troops across the volga river without alot of incidents????
2ndShockarmy said:anyways, satalingrad was fought in defensenive most of the time as the russians learned *CHARGING does not work well in offensive.
first you call in the 4000 + guns from the other side of the volga to bombard german positions, then u use snipers and take out officers, then you attack with SUBMACHINEGUNS and GRENADES while taking cover
well, thats how a chinese soldier would fight anywas
ur right, russians do charge.... not taking cover.... veyr sad...
Flak88 said:IS the movie really true to its sources? did the russians really charge during stalingrad
AussieNick said:I've seen Stalingrad. It was very real and meaningful. Especially the final scene, so very sad (I won't give it away). As for Enemy at the gates, I've been lead to believe that there was no sniper sent to hunt for Vasilli, and that was just a rumor, as there are no records of this being done.
the_13th_redneck said:Yes.
It was pretty much Russia's best tactic. What did they have that the Germans didn't? An almost inexhaustible supply of replacements.
And it's also true about that machine gun. It was for their own guys who would come running back. It was the only way to get those mass numbers to charge like that to the last man.
Flak88 said:IS the movie really true to its sources? did the russians really charge during stalingrad
the_13th_redneck said:Yes.
It was pretty much Russia's best tactic. What did they have that the Germans didn't? An almost inexhaustible supply of replacements.
And it's also true about that machine gun. It was for their own guys who would come running back. It was the only way to get those mass numbers to charge like that to the last man.
um, no, my grandfather was there, in the red army(sniper with 45 kills in teh battle), they were usually involved in streetfighting not any charging like in the movie. and they were patriotic, saying they feared getting executed is anti-soviet propaganda. i mean, the soviets sure deserve a lot of flak for all the **** they pulled in their time on earth, but, dont lie and say most soviet troops in wwii were scared of officers.
PS-dont confuse regular soviet army with the penal battalions, indeed, sometimes penal battalions (made up of criminals and other "hopeless" cases were ordered to charge like that, or to clear minefields, but this was not used for the army proper)
godofthunder9010 said:You'll get no argument from me -- the Eastern Front of WW2 needs to get more attention. Nations and peoples tend to only care about things that their nation was directly involved with, thus the USA and its people are very interested is the WW2 minor sideshows: D-day, N Africa, etc.
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