Election 2008. What if its Hillary Clinton vs Condi Rice?? - Page 4




View Poll Results :Who Gets Your Vote
Hillary Clinton 10 27.78%
Condoleezza Rice 16 44.44%
I'll vote for almost anyone as long as its not one of those two ladies. 7 19.44%
I just wouldn't vote at all then. 3 8.33%
Voters: 36. You may not vote on this poll

 
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Boots
 
April 11th, 2005  
Italian Guy
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Red_Army
The American people would never elect a Woman to become President of the United States. In a fantasy world, a battle between Rice and Clinton, I would choose Ralph Nader.
Why do you say that?
April 12th, 2005  
>*CrAzY*<
 
 
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Originally Posted by godofthunder9010

The fact that she did not divorce Bill for cheating on her repeatedly shows me that she puts her political ambitions above her own self-respect.

Well. that's a start on why I don't much care for her.
The Clinton family is worth monetarily wise more then we can fathom. If they were to get a divorce, both of their political careers would fall apart, and there would be so many more politics involved then we can imagine. So what if they sleep in seperate rooms? It's politics, it happens.

Quote:
Originally Posted by godofthunder9010
Democrats = The Good Guys
Republicans = The Bad Guys
If you look at the main differences in the time when we've had a Dem prez and a Rep prez - the Dem puts less emphasis on the military, while the Republicans work to build it up. Of course a country is going to like someone who can't turn on them and hurt them.

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Washington Times
When President Clinton famously declared that he loathed the military while doing his best to stay out of it,
Clinton hated the military. 'Nuff said.

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Originally Posted by behemoth79
since many of the republicans are conservative, i think she would lose some of the republican votes because she is black. if left with a choice of a white woman or a black woman, many conservatives would pick hillary.
If you haven't noticed, or maybe you are a little behind on the times, conservative does not equal racist. I'm conservative, but my best friend is black. I know just as many racist democrats as I do republicans. So either way, that will be the reason on both parties.

quote="godofthunder9010"]You lose the bigotted racists from the Republican Party, but I wonder how many black Democrats vote for Rice for similar reasons ... or simply because its a golden opportunity to actually have a black President of the United States for the first time ever. Don't underestimate the mindless masses voting for silly reasons.

Rice strikes me as more of a moderate than Clinton. Clinton is trying to be perceived as one these days, but sure as h**l isn't.[/quote]

don't forget the bigotted democrats who wouldn't vote for rice whether she was under Democrat on her ticket or not. Believe me..

I think it would be nice to have a black woman president. You are killing two birds with one stone. Plus, whether we like it or not, just being black exposes her to some harsh times. Not that its any easier being white somethime.

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Originally Posted by Red_Army
The American people would never elect a Woman to become President of the United States. In a fantasy world, a battle between Rice and Clinton, I would choose Ralph Nader.
Speak of being sexist. Wow. If you want something done, give it to a man. If you want something done now, and done right, give it to a woman. We have the ability to be more patient (ever heard fathers say they don't know how their wife does it?), but tend to be more passionate about things.

Just to say, when guys are passionate about something (Take the movie Hot Chick), the are percieved as being gay. Why? Dunno.

I think it would do our country some good to have a woman in the White House.[/quote]
April 20th, 2005  
godofthunder9010
 
 
The percieved positive implications of America electing a President that is both black and a woman are enormous. It would destroy much doubt about the United States being strongly influenced by both racism and sexism. It adds a new level of legitimacy to the USA calling for other nations of the world to respect human rights, particularly along gender and racial lines. It would be a final end to the idea that only a white male can be President of the United States.

Now whether a certain woman is or is not the best woman for the job is another matter altogether. Still, there is no reason that a woman cannot be.
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Boots
April 20th, 2005  
EagleZtrike
 
 
This is so wierd. I can't believe beaver teeth is winning.

I completely don't trust the Bush administration at all anymore.
The clinton's have always been known as intelligent and Hilary could run from an example from Bill but she can probably lead the nation even better.

If Condy get's in. Americans should be scared of what the future holds.
April 21st, 2005  
godofthunder9010
 
 
I'm not sure who would do a better job, to tell you the truth. Condi Rice is not George W Bush. Not even close.

Trusting the Clintons after the several scandals they brought to the White House, is going to be difficult for some people. And lets face it, this is a Military Forum. President Clinton substantially downsized the US military during his Presidency. The reasons or lack of reasons for that downsizing are irrellevant for the most part. Electing a Democrat is very likely to be bad in terms of job security if your in the Military.
April 24th, 2005  
EagleZtrike
 
 
No the thing is. I would trust george bush before i would trust rice.
April 25th, 2005  
fronzz
 
 
Rice is good but Bush is SOOOOOOOO much better even though i think it would be a landslide election (in favor of Rice)
April 25th, 2005  
Charge 7
 
 
Bush can't run again. The 22nd Amendment to the US Constitution forbids anyone from having a third term. This was, of course, enacted after FDR.
April 26th, 2005  
godofthunder9010
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Charge 7
Bush can't run again. The 22nd Amendment to the US Constitution forbids anyone from having a third term. This was, of course, enacted after FDR.
Interesting how Emperor Roosevelt forced the USA to make official the tradition of a two term limit.

Bear in mind, I don't call him Emperor Roosevelt out of spite. It is only that he is the only President we ever had who, most likely, could only ever be removed from the Presidency by his own death. I can't fathom him ever losing a US election.
April 26th, 2005  
Charge 7
 
 
Actually the 1944 election was very close. Dewey almost won. The 1936 and 1940 elections weren't landslides either. Only in 1932 did FDR have an overwhelming majority. The re-election of Roosevelt had more to do with Americans unwillingness to "change horses" in mid-stream than anything else. When in national crisis we always go with whoever's in power at the time. FDR was already perceived as the man who led us out of the Great Depression so he was well thought of as a strong President when we needed strength more than ever. Alf Landon, Wendell Wilkie, and Tom Dewey were unknowns to most people and of them all only Dewey had any reputation for strength as New York's "fighting DA".