BS, that's not @ all how it happend....like always, Mexico's always trying to blame the US for all their corruption and violence...
I can't really place your comment Sky. A cop and a kid meet on a bridge. Kid throws rock cop shoots and kills kid... easy as pie. How is this linked to Mexican corruption?
And yes, I think it is excessive. But I think that of many things in the States so nothing new there...
"the use of firearms to repel attacks with stones represents disproportionate use of force..."
Period. Until further information is gathered, the extent of my opinion on this matter is explained above by the Mexican government. Regardless of what was happening, if the officer says he shot back because he was having rocks hurled at him (from what appears to be about 20 yards away), he deserves disciplinary action for excessive force. A 14 year old doesn't have a 90 MPH fastball. He's not deadly with a pebble. He didn't deserve to die.
We are not required to believe anything more than a 14 year old was shot for essentially throwing rocks, the argument is not about what else was happening in the background or his reasons for being there the argument is that pretty much everyone with an IQ above 5 understands that there has to have been a better solution to the problem than just shooting the kid.
To argue that this was not a case of excessive force is ludicrous.
(c) The Fourth Amendment "reasonableness" inquiry is whether the officers' actions are "objectively reasonable" in light of the facts and circumstances confronting them, without regard to their underlying intent or motivation. The "reasonableness" of a particular use of force must be judged from the perspective of a reasonable officer on the scene, and its calculus must embody an allowance for the fact that police officers are often forced to make split-second decisions about the amount of force necessary in a particular situation. Pp. 490 U. S. 396-397.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graham_v._Connor
I really don't give a flying monkeys butt about amendments or court rulings people sit on these forums bemoaning the actions of politicians and hide behind them when it suits their cause.
One kid throwing stones at several agents is not a substantial enough reason to shoot him and I am not sure what sort of civilised country would think it was a justifiable action.
Unless this report is taking things out of context to the fullest degree, I'd say shooting a kid throwing rocks at you is probably not a good idea.
I'm sure you would denounce the officers if one of the suspects was hit in the head, by a rock thrown at an officer, and died as well.
It is apparent that you have never been confronted by an angry mob. I have and I cannot say that I would like to do it again. Fortunately for me a K9 unit arrived on scene and magiacally the crowd became compliant.
Monty. I respect your opinion, however I cannot in good conscience agree with it.
You may not care about "amendments or court rulings", however it is the law of the land here in America and will have a significant impact on what happens to the officer.
I doubt that I would denounce an officer if someone else killed a suspect in his custody as long as there was no complicity on the officers part.
We have had one or two events that ended in police shootings and some of them were entirely understandable such as a kid pointing a "realistic" toy gun at a cop but there were also some less than stellar ones as well such as the shooting of a guy who had gone nuts and was breaking windows in a department store at 2 in the morning, I like most people make their judgments based on the information at hand.
As far as relying on amendments and court rulings well I stand by my comment, just because the law allows for an action does not necessarily mean that it is a good idea to carry out that action.
Unless you live in a border city, you won't understand how Mex.corruption is so easily linked to El paso...Its very common for kids, in Juarez Mex. to begin drug dealing and associating themselves with the drug cartels at a very early age...Cartels use kids, and young women as bait to distract US agents whenever a drug deal is in process...Ive lived in a border city all my life...therefore that makes me more of an expert on such matters..besides, dont believe everything the media advertises...after all it is only "advertisement"...
Pebbles LMMFAO. No one worth their salt on the border throws pebbles they throw the biggest honkin rock they can throw with any velocity....pebbles yeah right.
Unless you live in a border city, you won't understand how Mex.corruption is so easily linked to El paso...Its very common for kids, in Juarez Mex. to begin drug dealing and associating themselves with the drug cartels at a very early age...Cartels use kids, and young women as bait to distract US agents whenever a drug deal is in process...Ive lived in a border city all my life...therefore that makes me more of an expert on such matters..besides, dont believe everything the media advertises...after all it is only "advertisement"...
YES I DO..AND THE REST OF THE EL PASOAN RESIDENTS....BECAUSE... I'M THE BORDER....I'VE LIVED HERE ALL MY LIFE,...HOW DARE YOU COMMENT ON MATTERS YOU ARE PLAINLY INGNORANT TO???We understand this Sky.
CLEARLY YOU DON'T.....
This is what we know:
FOR A FACT??? SO I TAKE YOU LIVE IN YSLETA???, LOL, YOU ONLY KNOW WHAT THE MEDIA FEEDS YOU...
And finally, you can accuse the Mexican Government of dragging its feet on the Border issue
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