Originally Posted by O.W.E.G.

and Egyptians weren't forced into Islam
and they weren't forced to pay a "penalty" its like taxes nowadays.
As Muslims used to pay taxes inform of zaka so Christians had to pay something like it so i wasn't a penalty.

Yes, they were! The Arabs killed Priests and broke the sphinx when people used to practice the ancient religions. And that's also a lame excuse, because not because you're a Muslim, means you pay the zaka. If they would rather call it taxes and charge it to everyone, it would be better.

One more thing, the Arabs are foreigners they don't have the right to conquer another country and impose their rules no matter what. It's occupation, buddy!

Arabs are in a dead end street. The only thing they have is oil and someday they will run out of it. Egypt has three important assets: tourism, fertile ground along the Nile and the Suez canal.

Originally Posted by VDKMS

Arabs are in a dead end street. The only thing they have is oil and someday they will run out of it. Egypt has three important assets: tourism, fertile ground along the Nile and the Suez canal.

I do find the ME to be strong just for that reason. They have a whole lot of oil and they've got Iran that controls the oil market -we're speaking of the straits of Hormuz-. Someone having those two things should be the world super power but, unfortunately they just keep fighting each others. Israel and Iran are at conflict, the Sunni and the Shias are at conflict it's quite unfortunate really. Many other areas wish to have what the ME has. And I wouldn't disagree with you when it comes to Egypt. It's mostly tourism and the Suez Canal for economy. For life, it's the Nile River, if it wasn't for the Nile River, I would wonder where the ancient Egyptians would build their civilization.

By controlling one or two canal or strait or having a river and tourism industry you cant be a super power in the world. About oil first it is not permanent and second without western consumers it is just an smelly liquid under the ground.
I think having the science and technology, especially advanced science and technology, are the sings of a super power country which now is in west hands. If you want to be a super power you should first get it.

The Arab world regards Israel as a crusader state imposed during a period of Western strengh. If the Arab world was ever to unite then the main line of communication joining the population centre of Egypt with the rest of the Arab world would pass thru Israel. Israel on geopolitical considerations alone will have to be destroyed.
There will be NO STABILITY in the Middle East because the extremely high Islamic Birthrate ensures continuing extreme poverty for the masses, at the same time guaranteeing vast numbers of young men for direct or indirect military action.
The extent to which the native European population is dying out and being replaced by Muslims is not appreciated by Americans, but it is analogous to the replacement of Anglos by Latinos in the States. This Islamification of Europe will ensure that in future conflicts between Israel and the Arab world Israel can expect no help from Europe. Will she get any from a future Latino USA?
NOW CENSOR THIS!

Originally Posted by hamidreza

By controlling one or two canal or strait or having a river and tourism industry you cant be a super power in the world. About oil first it is not permanent and second without western consumers it is just an smelly liquid under the ground.
I think having the science and technology, especially advanced science and technology, are the sings of a super power country which now is in west hands. If you want to be a super power you should first get it.

Well...I guess if Egypt starts getting more scientific and getting more advanced technology there issue would be the funding.

Originally Posted by ScarabVenom

Well...I guess if Egypt starts getting more scientific and getting more advanced technology there issue would be the funding.

The issue would be relying on your people's abilities and capacities. Other things will come themselves.

Originally Posted by hamidreza

The issue would be relying on your people's abilities and capacities. Other things come themselves.

Egypt does have some world-known scientists and intellectual people. The thing is, when they become known...they travel to another country that can provide enough funding to complete their studies or research. Egypt does bring people with brains, it just doesn't spend enough money into it since Mubarak didn't really care about the country.

But, I promise you, Egypt will improve sooner or later.

Originally Posted by Misty

The Arab world regards Israel as a crusader state imposed during a period of Western strengh. If the Arab world was ever to unite then the main line of communication joining the population centre of Egypt with the rest of the Arab world would pass thru Israel. Israel on geopolitical considerations alone will have to be destroyed.
There will be NO STABILITY in the Middle East because the extremely high Islamic Birthrate ensures continuing extreme poverty for the masses, at the same time guaranteeing vast numbers of young men for direct or indirect military action.
The extent to which the native European population is dying out and being replaced by Muslims is not appreciated by Americans, but it is analogous to the replacement of Anglos by Latinos in the States. This Islamification of Europe will ensure that in future conflicts between Israel and the Arab world Israel can expect no help from Europe. Will she get any from a future Latino USA?
NOW CENSOR THIS!

I can asure you that the Islamists will not take over Europe. We already see political parties gaining in strength that are hostile to further islamisation.

The biggest factor in the Islamisation of Europe is that the Islamists vote for socialist parties. Once they start their own parties the ones who oppose them will significantly grow and Islamists not respecting western culture will be send back to where they came from.