In certain areas Hitler was very smart, just as some of us are. I had to do a biography report on him for my history class, and I've also read Mein Kampf. Trust me, he was a very smart man. To say he was not a smart strategist is kind of funny. If you want to see genious, read his book Mein Kampf. He wrote it while in prison for that year, and he explains what he is going to do when he comes to power. Who he will conquer and even in the order. And guess what-- everything happened except for him exterminating the jewish race. Yes he did not get into art school but thats on part of his academic grades, and he also had a different style of drawing. He had the ability to glance at a building once and draw it out on paper in perfect detail. Hitler was a madman yes, but just because he was a madman, does not mean we should question his genious.

Originally Posted by IrishWizard

. Hitler was a madman yes, but just because he was a madman, does not mean we should question his genious.

There's a very thin line between genious and madness. I've heard someone say once that it depends on the outcome. I agree with you, IrishWizard

ok i think that was a missunderstanding.....
he was a good strategist, in diplomatics and politics, but not in military

Not to get off topic...but I wonder did Hitler ever take the equivelent of an I.Q. (Intelligence Quotient) test? and if so, is it available?

Just asking...back on topic

lol
i think nobody in the third reich would have dared so say to the Führer that his IQ is below 500

Kind of like Stalin and Saddam's "degrees" from their nations' most prestigious universities.

Originally Posted by Mark Conley

Not to get off topic...but I wonder did Hitler ever take the equivelent of an I.Q. (Intelligence Quotient) test? and if so, is it available?

Just asking...back on topic

Just after World War II, Dr. G.M. Gilbert, a psychologist-psychiatrist, was given access to the prisoners who were to be put on trial for war crimes at Nuremberg. Included in his examination was a German version of the American Wechsler-Bellevue Adult Intelligence Test. The results of those tests, presented in the table below, may be found in Dr. Gilbert's book, Nuremberg Diary, and also in The Reich Manual, p. 363, by Leonard Mosley.

Name IQ
1. Hjalmar Schacht 143
2. Arthur Seyss-Inquart 141
3. Hermann Goering 138
4. Karl Doenitz 138
5. Franz von Papen 134
6. Erich Raeder 134
7. Dr. Hans Frank 130
8. Hans Fritsche 130
9. Baldur von Schirach 130
10. Joachim von Ribbentrop 129
11. Wilhelm Keitel 129
12. Albert Speer 128
13. Alfred Jodl 127
14. Alfred Rosenberg 127
15. Constantin von Neurath 125
16. Walther Funk 124
17. Wilhelm Frick 124
18. Rudolf Hess 120
19. Fritz Sauckel 118
20. Ernst Kaltenbrunner 113
21. Julius Streicher 106
It's interesting to speculate on what Adolf Hitler's IQ might have been. I think we're on pretty safe ground in saying that he must have been at least as bright as the top members on this list. If he hadn't been, these wolves would surely have torn him apart.
http://www.eskimo.com/~miyaguch/grady/emptypromise.html

wouldnt say that
because he had the talent to manipulate the masses

hitlar was a maniac who had no idea how torun a war, which is why he was spotted filling up elvises gas tank in vegas yesterday

Originally Posted by Redneck

Kind of like Stalin and Saddam's "degrees" from their nations' most prestigious universities.

That reminded me of the brutal dictator's [Hussein] penchant for reading and writing romance novels. Oh, the irony.

IMO, Hitler was fairly intelligent. Higher than average, lower than super genius. At least on par with some of his more eggheaded party members. He was an autodidact, much of his learning came through his own willingness and comprehension of study so it would be difficult to gage his intelligence based on performances during his school time. I would say he was far more cunning than intelligent, however.