Difference between Infantry and Artillery? - Page 6




 
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November 27th, 2004  
MadeInChina
 
in a war, one should always considered artillery not just as a preparation waeapon but also as the support and basis of strategy, one might say the battle on the hook was not lost by the chiinese due to the use of artillery, which gave way to stalemate that prevented un penetration of nk.

: in this battle, chinese forwardlines units hid behind tunnels with radios and supplies, while the UN troops took over, the chiense artillery would be pounding the heights occupied just by un troops. IT was also used by UN troops aginist chinese troops.

my point is artillery is jsut as effective as tanks and armor, the point being fighting a defensive war: just look at the battle of kursk, in which russian artilelry held off german tanks for days until soviet relief tank columsn could counterattack
November 27th, 2004  
Duty Honor Country
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by godofthunder9010
Shooting relatively straight, similar to a tank round or a bullet.
As shooting like a tank or bullet, I would say 155mm round is not effective past 600 meters or so. I watched the 105mm ARTY shoot direct lay at 600 meters with limited effectiveness. If there was no direct hit, the round skipped off the ground an exploded 1000 meters away.

There is a way to get "steel on steel" with the 155mm at the max range of the gun. I forgot to mention copperhead rounds. Copperhead is laser guided ARTY. The round is shot in the general area of the target. Once the round leaves the tube, the fins deploy. A COLT team, a 3 man element with a laser, lases the target as the round gets near. The round makes adjustments and is suppose to find its way to the target. BUT bad things happen when a fin fails to deploy. I had a round land about 100 meters from my location because something went wrong with the fins.
November 27th, 2004  
A Can of Man
 
 
Basically ground combat is drawn around the artillery fire zones.
They set up no man's lands where manouver would be suicidal.
The biggest casualty to artillery was in fact the Chinese army in the Korean War. The vast majority of their casualities were determined to have come from artillery, which is why despite their incredible numerical advantage, the position of the current DMZ was as far as they got.
Artillery is essential because it is the easiest and most efficient way in delivering massive, concentrated firepower on a target.
that's the key, firepower delivery.

Quote:
Originally Posted by NYC88mm
in a war, one should always considered artillery not just as a preparation waeapon but also as the support and basis of strategy, one might say the battle on the hook was not lost by the chiinese due to the use of artillery, which gave way to stalemate that prevented un penetration of nk.

: in this battle, chinese forwardlines units hid behind tunnels with radios and supplies, while the UN troops took over, the chiense artillery would be pounding the heights occupied just by un troops. IT was also used by UN troops aginist chinese troops.

my point is artillery is jsut as effective as tanks and armor, the point being fighting a defensive war: just look at the battle of kursk, in which russian artilelry held off german tanks for days until soviet relief tank columsn could counterattack
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November 27th, 2004  
EuroSpike
 
"in a war, one should always considered artillery not just as a preparation waeapon but also as the support and basis of strategy, one might say the battle on the hook was not lost by the chiinese due to the use of artillery, which gave way to stalemate that prevented un penetration of nk."

In Napoleon times and in mud hut countries against a robber flock.

"my point is artillery is jsut as effective as tanks and armor, the point being fighting a defensive war: just look at the battle of kursk, in which russian artilelry held off german tanks for days until soviet relief tank columsn could counterattack"

In WWII. In modern warfare modern MBTs and weapon systems will beat immobile unprotected artillery 100-0.



"HE DELAY: troops in the tree line, light earthworks, heavy armor "

Why don't you adjust grenade's detonator more sensitive when shooting troops in the tree line to get grenades detonate by impact with tops of the trees wich causes better schrapnel effective against soft targets stationed below than exploding by impact on the ground level? Incoming artillery rounds detonating abowe causes more casualties for infantry and are more difficult to get cover from their effects.

On light or soft earthworks grenade will go deeper in to ground before detonating -> less effective.
November 27th, 2004  
No MERCY
 
 

Topic: on foot


The infanrty is always the first guys to actually go face to face with the enemy. The secure buildings and take out what ever they can. If so artillery is called into do sonme heavy damage!!!
November 27th, 2004  
Redneck
 
 
If you don't know, don't answer.
November 27th, 2004  
silent driller
 
 

Topic: Re: Difference between Infantry and Artillery?


Quote:
Originally Posted by Italian Guy
Can anyone explain me what the difference between Artillery and Infantry is? Thanks.
does this vary from country to country?

Yours,
Tiffany
Well, artillery tends to have the larger weapons. Infantry tends to have the more rapid firing, mobile and agile weapons(and more people)... Artillery goes BOOM! Infantry(for the most part) does not.
November 28th, 2004  
EuroSpike
 

Topic: Re: Difference between Infantry and Artillery?


Quote:
Originally Posted by silent driller
Quote:
Originally Posted by Italian Guy
Can anyone explain me what the difference between Artillery and Infantry is? Thanks.
does this vary from country to country?

Yours,
Tiffany
Well, artillery tends to have the larger weapons. Infantry tends to have the more rapid firing, mobile and agile weapons(and more people)... Artillery goes BOOM! Infantry(for the most part) does not.

Yes, but the main purpose of artillery is to be a _support unit_ to the fighting force, like engineers, like AAA, like maintenance and signal corps. Their first purpose is to support and make it possible to fighting units to act. It is not only a matter of bigger weapons.

Artillery is the best friend of infantry and enemy's artillery is the worst enemy of the infantry.
November 28th, 2004  
Duty Honor Country
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by EuroSpike
"HE DELAY: troops in the tree line, light earthworks, heavy armor "

Why don't you adjust grenade's detonator more sensitive when shooting troops in the tree line to get grenades detonate by impact with tops of the trees wich causes better schrapnel effective against soft targets stationed below than exploding by impact on the ground level? Incoming artillery rounds detonating abowe causes more casualties for infantry and are more difficult to get cover from their effects.

On light or soft earthworks grenade will go deeper in to ground before detonating -> less effective.
HE delay only has a delay of .005 seconds. Light earthworks have a depth of 1 meter, give or take. That .005 delay will allow the round to explode inside the works rather than ontop. The delay will allow for max damage. As for firing in the tree line, some delay rounds will explode in the air while others will impact on the ground. Remember all those WWII moves where artillery was exploding the tree trunks. That is the effect of delay. A fuze actually is triggered by a branch and explodes before the ground.

As for having gernades. There are no gernades in a HE Delay. The only round to have gernades is the ICM and DPICM rounds. Also, there is no way to change the delay of a HE Delay round.
November 28th, 2004  
A Can of Man
 
 
Basically fire that the guys shooting the weapon can see the target through their own optics. There is no fire control team adjusting their fire from another point.
Direct fire also means that when the team fires their weapon, the weapon will impact within their line of sight.

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Originally Posted by Doody
what is your definition of direct fire. THat has been debated on this thread and I am not which definition to use