Did kalashnikov stole the design from STG44??? - Page 3




View Poll Results :is the design stolen
yes 15 39.47%
no 23 60.53%
Voters: 38. You may not vote on this poll

 
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May 9th, 2004  
Marksman
 
 
some,ha,it haves all from stg44
May 9th, 2004  
JaegerWolf08
 
 
To the Russians credit, they were and still are excedingly good at copying technology. The sovets on the other hand many problems stemming from the communist system such as, very poor quality control, and not rewarding innovators.

They did have on the other hand a really good rifle. The AK47 will fire in almost any conditions under any circumstances. I have heard of AKs being buried in rice paddies for over a year , pulled up, and drained out, still functioned properly. My buddy who was in afghansistan, they found an AK that the bolt had rusted shut on. They used a Gerber to pound the bolt back in order to rack it, after they racked it, it still fired.

But Americans, I think have been a little more concerned with accuracy than reliability.
May 9th, 2004  
Marksman
 
 
Thats right!but many other manufactorers made some of their own which were better or worse thane original AK47
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May 10th, 2004  
rovai
 
Ak47 design was influenced by StG44, but i dont think it was a stolen design. A lot of the weapons in the world are using technology and design that was invented by others. Take Uzi and Ingram for example.

The difference in Eastern/USSR/Russian weapons design(powerful, simple and VERY reliable) and Western/US(accurate, fairly powerful and quite complicated, sometimes unreliable) is because countries have different requirements for their guns. USSR/Russia needs a weapon that any conscript can operate, and will still be effective, while US has professional army whose soldiers can operate complicated weapons because of higher training level.
May 10th, 2004  
JaegerWolf08
 
 
The US/NATO does not use the AK47 or the STG44. If you are calling the M16 complicated, then I would hate to see what you think about some other weapons. But you have to remember that when the US first came out with the M16 the Army had a draft and the army had a lot of conscripts. But, they took it to combat it Vietnam, though it was a piece of shit, we have made many improvements to it since its inception.

Calling the STG44 unreliable is a fallacy. It was known for its reliability thats why the Wehrmacht loved it. Hitler asked one of his soldiers what he needed to win the war, the soldier replied, more of the new rifles. Gotta love the History Channel.
May 10th, 2004  
SHERMAN
 
 

Topic: True


Well, If I may try, I think Rovai(Rifleman, just to show off my hebrew...) ment the fact that the M16(compared with the AK) is unrelaible.
May 10th, 2004  
JaegerWolf08
 
 
Damn near anything compared to an M16 is fairly reliable.
May 10th, 2004  
Marksman
 
 
M16
May 11th, 2004  
rovai
 
My point was to say that in m16 the reliability was sacrificed in favor of higher accuracy and lower recoil. They did it because US army thought that in fights, accuracy is more important, as for reliability - a well trained soldier can fix its rifle. This was a big mistake(along with 5.56x45 ammo, which was weak).
May 11th, 2004  
Marksman
 
 
well,thats right M16 jamed a lot so soldiers didnt put a full magazine,they left out a few bullets.