Despite rejecting Prop. 19, Californians lean toward legalizing marijuana




 
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Boots
 
November 5th, 2010  
Chukpike
 

Topic: Despite rejecting Prop. 19, Californians lean toward legalizing marijuana


John Hoeffel, LA Times Nov 4, 2010

"California voters rejected Prop. 19, but a post-election poll found that they still lean toward legalizing marijuana for recreational use and, if young voters had turned out as heavily on Tuesday as they do for presidential elections, the result would have been a close call."........


http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lano...galizing-.html
November 5th, 2010  
Chukpike
 
The biggest reason it did not pass was all the Potheads had a early morning joint and forgot to vote.

Also, the law would have allowed only people 21 and older to smoke pot. All the 18 to 20 year old voters had no reason to support it.

Actually it lost badly 54%-46%, so additional young voters would not have been enough to get it passed.
November 8th, 2010  
5.56X45mm
 
 
All the pot heads were stoned stupid, hence no passage of the law.

J/K



There is the 2010 Election map by each county in California. In reality the majority of the state if Conservative (Red). The problem is that the liberal centers of the state have the higher number of idiots. Thus they control the state through majority. In California's case, the tail wags the dog. But on the drug issue.... common sense took hold. Sadly on everything else it didn't.

Very soon California will go bankrupt and I and the rest of the country will have to pay for the Federal Bailout because California is "too big to fail".
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November 8th, 2010  
Ted
 
 
Just take a good swig of one of their special cigarettes and all your troubles will seem like a good joke. It might ease the initial impact and shed some light on how to address the problem.
Better yet, legalize pot and California can pay for it's one bail-out, since they can tax the pot and save on the law enforcement And you won't have to pay a cent! It seems everybody will be happy...
November 9th, 2010  
Rob Henderson
 
 
Ted, that solution is FAR too simple.
November 12th, 2010  
Ted
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob Henderson
Ted, that solution is FAR too simple.
Why is it way too simple? If you think about all the pro's you'd save an incredible amount of money? But the general tenure is that legalizing weed causes a massive increase in addicts. But I don't smoke and won't smoke when it is legalized and I think that many people will not start to smoke either.

We had this discussion many times over. And in all the threads there is a train of thought that once you smoke pot you end up as a heroine addict. And this is simply not true. Some might end up like that, but that is regardless legal or illegal pot. Sometimes solving the problem is so much easier than many people think.
November 12th, 2010  
Chief Bones
 
 

Topic: Bummers ......


Quote:
Originally Posted by Chukpike
John Hoeffel, LA Times Nov 4, 2010

"California voters rejected Prop. 19, but a post-election poll found that they still lean toward legalizing marijuana for recreational use and, if young voters had turned out as heavily on Tuesday as they do for presidential elections, the result would have been a close call."........


http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lano...galizing-.html
This is an issue that resonates in almost all of the states. Almost half of the voters lean towards legalizing pot for recreational use if they can just figure out how to ensure we don't end up with another case of 'alcohol drug dependency and abuse' ... ie: reckless usage of pot with it's resultant problems.

There is a misapprehension from many voters, who don't really have all of the relevant information about pot and it's effects on the body, for making an informed decision.

Unless/until a majority of the voters become well informed, proposals to legalize pot will continue to be defeated at the polls.
November 12th, 2010  
Chukpike
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chief Bones
This is an issue that resonates in almost all of the states. Almost half of the voters lean towards legalizing pot for recreational use if they can just figure out how to ensure we don't end up with another case of 'alcohol drug dependency and abuse' ... ie: reckless usage of pot with it's resultant problems.

There is a misapprehension from many voters, who don't really have all of the relevant information about pot and it's effects on the body, for making an informed decision.

Unless/until a majority of the voters become well informed, proposals to legalize pot will continue to be defeated at the polls.
"don't end up with another case of 'alcohol drug dependency and abuse' ... ie: reckless usage of pot with it's resultant problems." quote Chief Bones

There is the problem, it will happen. People are smart enough to know that all drugs are abused including prescription drugs. Does not mean people believe that marijuana always leads to "harder drugs. Marijuana is a drug therefore it will be abused.

Since ingestion by smoking is the most common method of use, it is funny to see Californians advocating for legalization. At the same time we are banning cigarette smoking in public places, and working to ban smoking all together.
Is this a double standard?

I won't be using, so my concern is mainly about abuse.
November 13th, 2010  
Rob Henderson
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chukpike
"don't end up with another case of 'alcohol drug dependency and abuse' ... ie: reckless usage of pot with it's resultant problems." quote Chief Bones

There is the problem, it will happen. People are smart enough to know that all drugs are abused including prescription drugs. Does not mean people believe that marijuana always leads to "harder drugs. Marijuana is a drug therefore it will be abused.

Since ingestion by smoking is the most common method of use, it is funny to see Californians advocating for legalization. At the same time we are banning cigarette smoking in public places, and working to ban smoking all together.
Is this a double standard?

I won't be using, so my concern is mainly about abuse.
Real, pure marijuana doesn't have 23 known cancer-causing ingredients in it. Can't say the same thing about a pack of Marlboros.
November 13th, 2010  
Chukpike
 
What Other Adverse Effect Does Marijuana Have on Health?

Effects on the Heart
Marijuana increases heart rate by 20-100 percent shortly after smoking; this effect can last up to 3 hours. In one study, it was estimated that marijuana users have a 4.8-fold increase in the risk of heart attack in the first hour after smoking the drug.5 This may be due to increased heart rate as well as the effects of marijuana on heart rhythms, causing palpitations and arrhythmias. This risk may be greater in aging populations or in those with cardiac vulnerabilities.

Effects on the Lungs
Numerous studies have shown marijuana smoke to contain carcinogens and to be an irritant to the lungs. In fact, marijuana smoke contains 50-70 percent more carcinogenic hydrocarbons than tobacco smoke. Marijuana users usually inhale more deeply and hold their breath longer than tobacco smokers do, which further increase the lungs' exposure to carcinogenic smoke.

http://www.nida.nih.gov/Infofacts/marijuana.html