Dems take the Senate

After seeing how the republicans royally screwed up things, I firmly believe that no one party should control congress and the White House. A divided government means compromise and checks and balances.
 
Long live divided government!

Now if we could only get a substantial third party, that would be super.
 
I hope the GOP learns from this and corrects this grand mistake and take back the House and Senate and keep the White House.

All I know now is that the Dems will truly make it a living hell for pro 2nd Amendment folks and also the ideas of national defense and self defense are a thing of the past.

GW can Veto bills but still, after the veto the Senate can still pass a bill with a majority vote.
 
5.56X45mm said:
I hope the GOP learns from this and corrects this grand mistake and take back the House and Senate and keep the White House.

All I know now is that the Dems will truly make it a living hell for pro 2nd Amendment folks and also the ideas of national defense and self defense are a thing of the past.

GW can Veto bills but still, after the veto the Senate can still pass a bill with a majority vote.
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If I remember correctly it has to be more of a 2/3 to 1/3 vote to overturn a veto. At 49-49-2 that seems unlikely.



[SIZE=+1][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Override (a veto)[/FONT][/SIZE]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Congressional enactment of a measure over the president's veto. A veto override requires a recorded two-thirds vote of those voting in each house.[/FONT]​




http://clerkkids.house.gov/glossary/define.html?lword=Override+(a+veto)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veto_override
 
And you can bet your asses that if the vote passes enough to get to the president, it will probably get passed w/o him.
 
Amazing, the Democrats managed to force a split in the Senate (49-49-2) and take the house despite not having a platform to stand on and calling all the troops idiots.

Can't wait for 2008 though! McCain/Whoever vs. Stewart/Colbert. It will be a record high turnout at 78%, Stewart/Colbert will win the 18-25 year old demographic, McCain/Whoever will win every other group and 77% of the states, and Hillary Clinton will come clean about her sex change operation seven years ago with the following statement: "I wear the pants in this household."
 
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Unlike Australia, Britain and probably Canada, it seems to me that in the US Congress, party affiliation is not so steadfast. Thus on many votes, Democrats and Republicans "swap" sides. US Congressmen and Senators seem more independent. However they tend to be, it seems, either 'liberal' or 'conservative.'

Now my question is: if you add up the conservative Rep's and Dem's versus the liberal Dem's and Rep's, who is out in front?

For example, conservative Republican senator R. Santorum (Penn) was beated by his Democratic challenger (Casey). But Casey is conservative (eg. anti-gay marriage, pro-life). I've read that the Dems fielded "religious" and or "conservative" or "conservate leaning" candidates in order to counter the Reps love-in with the Religious Right. So even thought the Dems have won control of the House and maybe the Senate, are there a lot more Democrats in the Congress who on social or ethical issues would side with conservative Republicans?
 
I think it is leaning towards conservatives right now, it's why I've tried to avoid saying the liberals took the House, I have noticed that quite a few of these Democrats have rather strong conservative tendancies.

I don't think party lines are big of a deal in America as they are elsewhere, the Prime Minister in the UK and several other parliamentary systems is chosen by Parliament, is it not?
 
The republicans in the house are also more moderate now, so actually the balance of power is fairly split in the house. This seperation of power seems to me to be a good thing.
 
WNxRogue said:
The republicans in the house are also more moderate now, so actually the balance of power is fairly split in the house. This seperation of power seems to me to be a good thing.
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Get ready to see the following on all of the BS bills by the dems:

VETO

Maybe he can save the carpal tunnel by just buying a rubber stamp!
 
I can’t believe people think that because the majority has changed things will actually change...You do realize that most these people are the same ones that have been doing this for years...

It is like the great messiah has come down to thwart off all things evil....The sky is no longer falling the world is all of a sudden saved....Thank you news media and your 86% Deomcratic vote making sure this seems like the dawning of a new era when really it will just be some more of the same old crap...They take our money and put it in their pockets....
 
Donkey said:
I can’t believe people think that because the majority has changed things will actually change...You do realize that most these people are the same ones that have been doing this for years...

It is like the great messiah has come down to thwart off all things evil....The sky is no longer falling the world is all of a sudden saved....Thank you news media and your 86% Deomcratic vote making sure this seems like the dawning of a new era when really it will just be some more of the same old crap...They take our money and put it in their pockets....
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I'm in 100% agreement with your comments, especially the last one.
 
Without meaning to sound like a tit or a trolling arse, i think that the rest of the civilised world, with regards to the Democrats achievement, will be very, very happy.
 
jequirity said:
Without meaning to sound like a tit or a trolling arse, i think that the rest of the civilised world, with regards to the Democrats achievement, will be very, very happy.
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Time shall tell....

But then again you don't pay my taxes either :)
 
Hopefully foreign policy will finally improve (and maybe we'll actually get something called a plan for Iraq, hopefully not withdrawal), but if they come to take my guns, they're going to pry them from my cold, dead hands.
 
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