Defence recruitment is making me fork out money! (Australia)

Choccos as roundouts...

I can confirm that reserves have gone with 3rar to Tully, it was 1 month continous training for fully qualed chocs, there was a 2 week ex, then 2 weeks at Tully. Could not have been more than 1 section from my unit that went, and they worked as their own section. I was very surprised at this... I thought maybe they'd put one reserve in a reg section max and make him ar$e end arnold...
Anyway all the guys who went were offered places in 3, if they chose to transfer to reg. At least one guy did just that.

As for 3rar moving, I know some reserves who would go reg but don't want to move from NSW. I became one of them when I bought a unit and marreid. My wife has a great job in Sydney which she would not be able to get interstate, its a bi-lingual job, so half the business would be lost if you moved from Sydney. I would love to move around; but now its harder. I am still going reg and will be at singo for a 30 Jan 05 start; I can't wait! As for going back to ARTC Im in the process of cutting that away; they are confirming if doing MOD2 will mean I can then just start the full-time IET and not do the Advanced Soldier Training at ARTC.

Can anyone say what BFA scores will mean you don't get undue attention from the PTI's at Singo?
Besides Push-ups, 2.4 run and situps are there any other specific exercises that are measured? for example heaves?

What is the current amount of heaves you must do at PTS to start the basic parra course?


thanks men!
 
The PFA is as follows:

100 sit-ups

60 push-ups

2.4Km run in your time for your age group; and

6 heaves to a cadence.
 
Thats the BFA, not the PFA. Im sure anyone who gets through Basic will be fit enough to pass the BFA. We just need to make sure to maintain fitness.
 
They are the same thing.

For mahon,

The last direct entry from SOI to 3RAR was back in 1986-7 and they were all ARA. As for GRES been given slots in 3RAR or any other ARA Bn that was organised by that particular Bn seems to be a urban myth or half truths.
 
Never heard of slots being "reserved" in a Bn for particular people.
I do however know that as a reserve officer you can apply to do fulltime service (usually in 12 month blocks) with ARA units, usually to make up a shortfall in the Bn. I know of a Lt. from 10/27th RSAR who went on full time service with 1RAR in Iraq. That is the closest to what your talking about that I've heard of, but that is because they are filling in a specific position, and it isn't permenant. If you try and transfer from GRes to ARA you are subjected to the same selection and allocation process as everyone else, although your experience might tend to sway the choice one way or another.
 
Heaves

Heaves are just chinups but when you do them for PT its usually palms facing away from your body... an overgrasp grip.

You might gain a few push-ups at Kapooka, I didn't but they really skimped on the PT. Its hard when your in a platoon of 53 and you get 1 period of PT, which includes changing showering etc...

At Kapooka just focus on eating fast and plentiful, morning routine and not falling asleep in lectures no matter how boring. So when you get the lectures on things like the credit union, military history take it all in - we always had a few sleepers in our platoon and they usually got plenty of "extra" things to do.

The great thing about Kapooka its quite a level playing field, you don't need any prior knowledge, just get over the firstweek of yelling and enjoy it, you'll robably never go through it again.


Cheers,
 
Heaves work-out

a good workout (its got many names but mostly called "snakebite") is to pyramid Heaves and pushups. Start with 10 heaves then 3 push-ups, rest whilst your mate does the same then do 9 heaves and 6 pushups... and so on until you do 1 heave and 30 pushups. You just minus one heave and add 3 pushhups.
This ain't easy if your new to heaves or pushups for that matter but it is a good way to get better at both. It also balances muscle strength in your chest and back give you some balance.
If your not good at heaves like me then you can get a mate to spot you or use a bar stool or something to take some of your weight.
They are awkward and like push-ups not really something to look forward to but progress keeps you motivated. A good book for PT is the Navy Seals Guide to Fitness, Im not on a commission but its helpful with everything from stretching, nutrition and work-outs.

:)
 
hey can some one tell me bout the stuff u do at RMC or ADFA? i just wanna no what the army is like over in aus...
 
I've been in/am in both Aussie Navy & Army. I got stuffed around something shocking by Recruitment Medical section when I first applied. $400 dollars later (x-rays/CT scans) was accepted and Class 1 medically fit.

ADF has to protect itself but they can go overboard. One universal complaint is that they get you to see a specialist to double-check something. The applicant does that and gets the all clear, but then they spring a second test on him/her that they could have done much earlier and in one hit. I hear so many stories of that sort of mucking around


Welcome to the ADF
 
In Norway most of this will be covered by the Army..
(Unless you're an officer.. :? )

'tis merely part and parcel with you making the big bucks Captain, I'm sure you have heard of the Surcharge (SirCharge).
 
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