"'Cultural Marxism' at the U.S. Naval Academy"




 
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December 2nd, 2005  
phoenix80
 
 

Topic: "'Cultural Marxism' at the U.S. Naval Academy"


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The following is the most concise representation of the "Silent Revolution" ( Cultural Marxism) , and its Genesis , which has gripped America. This Idea driven warfare means to undermine American Society and Western Civilization.

The Blueprint to Split Society by “Ideas”, the Idea Is The Weapon ( ref Henry Ford)

"The whole method of the the Intellectual and Cultural Elites may be described in one word, Disintegration. The undoing of what has been done, the creation of a long and hopeless interim in which attempts at reconstruction shall be baffled, and the gradual wearing down of public opinion and public confidence, until those who stand outside the created chaos shall insert their strong calm hand to seize control—that is the whole method of procedure." " The idea is the weapon. And to be a weapon it must be an idea at variance with the natural trend of life. It must indeed be a theory opposed to the facts of life. And no theory so opposed can be expected to take root and become the ruling factor, unless it appeals to the mind as reasonable, inspiring and good. The Truth frequently seems unreasonable; the Truth frequently is depressing; the Truth sometimes seems to be evil; but it has this eternal advantage, it is the Truth, and what is built thereon neither brings nor yields to confusion."

"This is a piece of strategy well known to the forces that invisibly control mass-thought. " "But now, to conclude this general view of the method, rather this part of the method, the confusion itself, which all these influences converge to produce, is expected to produce another more deeply helpless state. And that state is, Exhaustion."

What is the Frankfurt School? © by .) (Ret August 1999 Copyright 1 Dr. Gerald L. Atkinson CDR USN

If you have absorbed any of the background material presented in this series of essays on "'Cultural Marxism' at the U.S. Naval Academy," you should be quite concerned that our future naval officers are being subjected to psychic intimidation and indoctrination by behavioral psychologists and clinicians whose methods descend from Wilhelm Wundt [1]. The 'facilitators' and civilian professors in the 'Leadership and Ethics' program at the Academy are Wundtians all. The 'cultural Marxism' that has invaded our military academies and other military institutions is pervasive. As a result, these future naval officers will not have an understanding of the essence of what they are chosen to protect, that is, American civilization [2] -- the most vital and precious descendent of Western civilization.

One must wonder who 'they' are. Who in America today is at work destroying our traditions, our family bonds, our religious beginnings, our reinforcing institutions, indeed, our entire culture? What is it that is changing our American civilization?

Indeed, a thoughtful person should ask himself or herself whether or not all this 'change' from America's traditional culture is simply a random set of events played out by a random set of players, all independent of each other -- all disconnected from any central premise or guidance. It is entirely possible that chance is at work here and all of these 'threads' of American culture are the random workings of the human intellect (the pursuit of what is possible, vice what is appropriate) in a free, democratic society.

But suppose you were to learn that nearly all of the observations made in this series of essays are completely consistent with a 'design' -- that is a concept, a way of thinking, and a process for bringing it about. And suppose one could identify a small core group of people who designed just such a concept and thought through the process of infusing it into a culture. Wouldn't you be interested in at least learning about such a core group? Wouldn't you want to know who they were, what they thought, and how they conjured up a process for bringing their thoughts into action? For Americans with even a smidgeon of curiosity, the answer should be a resounding yes!

If such a core group could be found, then it would still depend on your personal 'world view' as to its significance. If you believe in the 'blind watchmaker,' that is, all cosmic and social events are random and guided only by the laws of nature, 'evolutionary' in the sense of competing with other random events for survival in a 'stochastic' world, you may choose to believe that such a core group was meaningless -- it may have existed but so what? It may have been only one of an uncountably large number of such 'groups' in the world's history. And you may believe that any particular group's 'window of opportunity' to influence future generations was passed by and did little to influence the course of America's history.

If you believe, instead, that nature has a 'design,' and that all events can be connected and we humans can make sense out of many of them if we will only 'connect all of the dots,' then you may believe that this small core group has great influence, even today, in American Culture. If this is your world view, you may (but not necessarily) even believe in a 'conspiracy. and 'conspirators' which and who aim to alter our culture on a vast scale.

It is clear, however, that irrespective of one's 'world view,' it is informative to at least know of such a core group (if it, indeed, existed), what it believed, what it set out to accomplish, and what methods it followed to take action on its beliefs.

Just such a core group did, indeed, exist. That is, history identifies a small group of German intellectuals who devised concepts, processes, and action plans which conform very closely to what Americans presently observe every day in their culture. Observations, such as those made in this series of essays, can be directly traced to the work of this core group of intellectuals. They were members of the Frankfurt School, formed in Germany in 1923. They were the forebears of what some proclaim as 'cultural Marxism,' a radical social movement that has transformed American culture. It is more commonly known today as 'political correctness.'

'Cultural Marxism' and 'critical theory' are concepts developed by a group of German intellectuals, who, in 1923 in Germany, founded the Institute of Social Research at Frankfurt University. The Institute, modeled after the Marx-Engels Institute in Moscow, became known as the Frankfurt School [3]. In 1933, when the Nazis came to power in Germany, the members of the Frankfurt School fled to the United States. While here, they migrated to major U.S. universities (Columbia, Princeton, Brandeis, and California at Berkeley). These intellectual Marxists included Herbert Marcuse, who coined the phrase, 'make love, not war,' during the anti-Vietnam War demonstrations.

By promoting the dialectic of 'negative' criticism, that is, pointing out the rational contradictions in a society's belief system, the Frankfurt School 'revolutionaries' dreamed of a utopia where their rules governed [4]. "Their Critical Theory had to contain a strongly imaginative, even utopian strain, which transcends the limits of reality." Its tenets would never be subject to experimental evidence. The pure logic of their thoughts would be incontrovertible. As a precursor to today's 'postmodernism' in the intellectual academic community, [5] "...it recognized that disinterested scientific research was impossible in a society in which men were themselves not yet autonomous...the researcher was always part of the social object he was attempting to study." This, of course, is the concept which led to the current fetish for the rewriting of history, and the vogue for our universities' law, English literature, and humanities disciplines -- deconstruction.

Critical theory rejected the ideal of Western Civilization in the age of modern science, that is, the verification or falsifying [6] of theory by experimental evidence. Only the superior mind was able to fashion the 'truths' from observation of the evidence. There would be no need to test these hypotheses against everyday experience.

The Frankfurt school studied the 'authoritarian personality' which became synonymous with the male, the patriarchal head of the American family. A modern utopia would be constructed by these idealistic intellectuals by 'turning Western civilization' upside down. This utopia would be a product of their imagination, a product not susceptible to criticism on the basis of the examination of evidence. This 'revolution' would be accomplished by fomenting a very quiet, subtle and slowly spreading 'cultural Marxism' which would apply to culture the principles of Karl Marx bolstered by the modern psychological tools of Sigmund Freud. Thus, 'cultural Marxism' became a marriage of Marx and Freud aimed at producing a 'quiet' revolution in the United States of America. This 'quiet' revolution has occurred in America over the past 30 years. While America slept!

What is 'cultural Marxism?' Why should it even be considered when the world's vast experiment with the economic theory of Karl Marx has recently gone down to defeat with the disintegration of Soviet communism? Didn't America win the Cold War against the spread of communism? The answer is a resounding 'yes, BUT. We won the 55-year Cold War but, while winning it abroad, we have failed to understand that an intellectual elite has subtly but systematically and surely converted the economic theory of Marx to culture in American society. And they did it while we were busy winning the Cold War abroad. They introduced 'cultural Marxism' into the mainstream of American life over a period of thirty years, while our attention was diverted elsewhere . The vehicle for this introduction was the idealistic Boomer elite, those young middle-class and well-to-do college students who became the vanguard of America's counter-culture revolution of the mid-1960s -- those draft-dodging, pot-smoking, hippies who demonstrated against the Vietnam War and who fomented the destructive (to women) 'women's liberation' movement. These New Totalitarians [7] are now in power as they have come to middle-age and control every public institution in our nation. But that is getting ahead of the story.

The cauldron for implementing this witches brew were the elites of the Boomer generation. They are the current 'foot soldiers' of the original Frankfurt School gurus. The counter-culture revolution of the 1960s was set in motion and guided intellectually by the 'cultural Marxists' of the Frankfurt School -- Herbert Marcuse, Eric Fromm, Theodor Adorno, Max Horkheimer, Wilhelm Reich, and others [8,9]., Its influence is now felt in nearly every institution in the United States. The elite Boomers, throwbacks to the dangerous idealist Transcendental generation of the mid-1800s, are the 'agents of change,' who have introduced 'cultural Marxism' into American life.

William S. Lind relates [10] that 'cultural Marxism' is an ideology with deep roots. It did not begin with the counter-culture revolution in the mid-1960s. Its roots go back at least to the 1920s and the writings of the Italian Communist Antonio Gramsci [11]. These roots, over time, spread to the writings of Herbert Marcuse.

Herbert Marcuse was one of the most prominent Frankfurt School promoters of Critical Theory's social revolution among college and university students in the 1960s. It is instructive to review what he has written on the subject:

"One can rightfully speak of a cultural revolution, since the protest is directed toward the whole cultural establishment, including the morality of existing society ... there is one thing we can say with complete assurance. The traditional idea of revolution and the traditional strategy of revolution have ended. These ideas are old-fashioned ... what we must undertake is a type of diffuse and dispersed disintegration of the system."

This sentiment was first expressed by the early 20th century Italian Marxist, Antonio Gramsci.

Gramsci, a young communist who died in one of Mussolini's prisons in 1937 at the age of 46, conjured up the notion of a 'quiet' revolution that could be diffused throughout a culture -- over a period of time -- to destroy it from within. He was the first to suggest that the application of psychology to break the traditions, beliefs, morals, and will of a people could be accomplished quietly and without the possibility of resistance. He deduced that "The civilized world had been thoroughly saturated with Christianity for 2,000 years..." and a culture based on this religion could only be captured from within.

Gramsci insisted that alliances with non-Communist leftist groups would be essential to Communist victory. In our time, these would include radical feminist groups, extremist environmental organizations, so-called civil rights movements, anti-police associations, internationalist-minded groups, liberal church denominations, and others. Working together, these groups could create a united front working for the destructive transformation of the old Judeo-Christian culture of the West. By winning 'cultural hegemony,' Gramsci pointed out that they could control the deepest wellsprings of human thought -- through the medium of mass psychology. Indeed, men could be made to 'love their servitude.' In terms of the gospel of the Frankfurt School, resistance to 'cultural Marxism' could be completely negated by placing the resister in a psychic 'iron cage.' The tools of mass psychology could be applied to produce this result.

The essential nature of Antonio Gramsci's revolutionary strategy is reflected in a 1990s book [12] by the American Boomer author, Charles A. Reich, 'The Greening of America.' "There is a revolution coming. It will not be like revolutions of the past. It will originate with the individual and the culture, and it will change the political structure as its final act. It will not require violence to succeed, and it cannot be successfully resisted by violence. This is the revolution of the New Generation." Of course this New Generation would be Reich's elite Boomer generation. And the mantra for these New Age 'foot soldiers' of the Frankfurt School prophets, would be 'have the courage to change [13].'

The Frankfurt School theorized that the 'authoritarian personality' is a product of the patriarchal family. This idea is in turn directly connected to Frederich Engels' 'The Origins of the Family, Private Property and the State,' which promotes matriarchy. Furthermore, it was Karl Marx who wrote about the radical notion of a 'community of women' in the Communist manifesto. And it was Karl Marx who wrote disparagingly about the idea that the family was the basic unit of society in 'The German Ideology' of 1845.

'The Authoritarian personality,' studied by the Frankfurt School in the 1940s and 1950s in America, prepared the way for the subsequent warfare against the masculine gender promoted by Herbert Marcuse and his band of social revolutionaries under the guise of 'women's liberation' and the New Left movement in the 1960s. The evidence that psychological techniques for changing personality is intended to mean emasculation of the American male is provided by Abraham Maslow, founder of Third Force Humanist Psychology and a promoter of the psychotherapeutic classroom, who wrote that, '...the next step in personal evolution is a transcendence of both masculinity and femininity to general humanness.' The Marxist revolutionaries knew exactly what they wanted to do and how to do it. They have succeeded in accomplishing much of their agenda.

But how can we claim the 'causes' of the breakdown of our schools, our universities, indeed, the very fiber of our culture were a product of a tiny group of intellectuals who immigrated from Germany in 1933? Given all of the special-interest groups involved in these activities, how can we trace these 'causes' to the Frankfurt school? Look at some of the evidence.

As an example, postmodern reconstruction of the history of Western Civilization (now prevalent in our universities) has its roots in the Critical Theory of the Frankfurt School. This rewriting of history by the postmodern scholars in America has only recently come under attack. Keith Windschuttle, in his book, 'Killing of History,' has severely criticized the rush to 'relativism' by historiographers. What is truly astonishing, however, is that 'relativism' has largely supplanted the pursuit of truth as a goal in historical study [14]. George G. Iggers' recently published book, 'Historiography in the Twentieth Century: From Scientific Objectivity to the Postmodern Challenge,' reminds us of the now famous line by Hayden White, a postmodernist, "Historical narratives...are verbal fictions, the contents of which are more invented than found." He quotes other postmodernists, mostly non- historians, who [15] "...reinforce the proposition that truth and reality are primarily authoritarian weapons of our times." We now recognize the source of this postmodern assault -- the cultural Marxists of the Frankfurt School who became experts in criticizing the 'authoritarian personality' in American culture.

Herbert London refutes White's proposition by observing, "...if history is largely invention, who can say with authority that the American Revolution came before the French Revolution?" He observes that evidence has taken a back seat to inventiveness. He thus cuts right to the chase -- the inventions of postmodernism, which are cutting successive generations of Americans off from their culture and their history, evolved directly from the 'cultural Marxist' scholars of the Frankfurt School.

How did this situation come about in America's universities? Gertrude Himmelfarb has observed [16] that it slipped past those traditional academics almost unobserved until it was too late. It occurred so 'quietly' that when they 'looked up,' postmodernism was upon them with a vengeance. "They were surrounded by a tidal wave of faddish multicultural subjects such as radical feminism, deconstructed relativism as history and other courses" which undermine the perpetuation of Western Civilization. Indeed, this tidal wave slipped by just as Antonio Gramsci and the Frankfurt School had envisioned -- a 'quiet' revolution. A revolution that could not be resisted by force.

It is of interest to note that the 'sensitivity training' techniques used in our public schools over the past 30 years and which are now employed by the U.S. military to educate the troops about 'sexual harassment' were developed during World War II and thereafter by Kurt Lewin [17] and his proteges. One of them, Abraham Maslow, was a member of the Frankfurt school and the author [18] of 'The Art of Facilitation' which is a manual used during such 'sensitivity' training. Thereby teachers were indoctrinated not to teach but to 'facilitate.' This manual describes the techniques developed by Kurt Lewin and others to change a person's world view via participation in small-group encounter sessions. Teachers were to become amateur group therapists. The classroom became the center of self-examination, therapeutic circles where children (and later on, military [19] personnel) talked about their own subjective feelings. This technique was designed to convince children they were the sole authority in their own lives.

It is important to realize that this movement, 'cultural Marxism,' exists, understand where it came from, and what its objectives were -- the complete destruction of Western Civilization in America. That is, these 'cultural Marxists' aimed to destroy, slowly but surely from the bottom up, the entire fabric of American Civilization.

By the end of World War II, almost all the original Frankfurt School members had become American citizens. This meant the beginning of a new English-speaking audience for the school. Now the focus was on American forms of authoritarianism. With this shift in subject matter came a subtle change in the center of the Institute's work. In America, authoritarianism appeared in different forms than its European counterpart. Instead of terror or coercion, more gentle forms of enforced conformism had been developed. According to Martin Jay, [20] "Perhaps the most effective of these were to be found in the cultural field. American mass culture thus became one of the central concerns of the Frankfurt School in the 1940s."

Since the 1940s, subtle changes appeared in the Frankfurt School's descriptions of their work. For example, the opposite of the 'authoritarian personality' was no longer the 'revolutionary,' as it had been in previous studies aimed at Europeans. In America, it was now the 'democratic' who opposed the 'authoritarian personality.' Thus, their language matched more closely the liberal [21] "...New Deal rather than Marxist or radical.." language. Education for tolerance, rather than praxis for revolutionary change, was the ostensible goal of their research. They were cleverly merging their language with the mainstream of liberal left thought in America while maintaining their 'cultural Marxist' objectives. Toleration had never been an end in itself for the Frankfurt School, and yet the non-authoritarian (utopian) personality, insofar as it was defined, was posited as a person with a non-dogmatic tolerance for diversity [22]. This thought is dominant in today's power elite of the Boomer generation, the New Totalitarians.

One of the basic tenets of Critical Theory was the necessity to break down the contemporary family. The Institute scholars preached that [23] "...Even a partial breakdown of parental authority in the family might tend to increase the readiness of a coming generation to accept social change." The 'generation gap' of the 1960s and the 'gender gap' of the 1990s are two aspects of the attempt by the elite Boomers (taking a page out of 'cultural Marxism') to transform American culture into their 'Marxist' utopia.

The transformation of American culture envisioned by the 'cultural Marxists' is based on matriarchal theory. That is, they propose transforming American culture into a female-dominated one. This is a direct throwback to Wilhelm Reich, a Frankfurt School member who considered matriarchal theory in psychoanalytic terms. In 1933, he wrote in The Mass Psychology of Fascism that matriarchy was the only genuine family type of 'natural society.'

Eric Fromm, another charter member of the Institute, was also one of the most active advocates of matriarchal theory. Fromm was especially taken with the idea that all love and altruistic feelings were ultimately derived from the maternal love necessitated by the extended period of human pregnancy and postnatal care. "Love was thus not dependent on sexuality, as Freud had supposed. In fact, sex was more often tied to hatred and destruction. Masculinity and femininity [24] were not reflections of 'essential' sexual differences, as the romantics had thought. They were derived instead from differences in life functions, which were in part socially determined." This dogma was the precedent for today's radical feminist pronouncements appearing in nearly every major newspaper and TV program, including the television newscasts. For these current day radicals, male and female roles result from cultural indoctrination in America -- an indoctrination carried out by the male patriarchy to the detriment of women. Nature plays no role in this matter.

But in terms of destruction and disintegration, Critical Theory absorbed by the 'change agents' and other social revolutionaries has led them to declare their intent to restructure America. As they proclaim, this means their activities have been directed toward the disintegration of the traditional white male power structure. As anyone with eyes to view present-day television and motion pictures can confirm, this has been largely achieved. In other words, Critical Theory, as applied mass psychology, brought forth a 'quiet' psychic revolution which facilitated an actual physical revolution that has become visible everywhere in the United States of America . It was the destructive criticism of the primary elements of American culture that inspired the 1960s counter-culture revolution. As the name implies, this false 'spiritual awakening' by the idealist Boomers in their coming-of-age years was an effort to transform the prevailing culture into an inverted or opposite kind of culture that is a necessary prelude to social revolution. Now that these elite Boomers are in positions of power in the United States, they are completing their work of destroying every institution that has been built up over 200 years of American history. Their aim is to destroy any vestige of the Anglo-American path [25] taken by Western Civilization in forming the unique American culture.

Most Americans do not yet realize that they are being led by social revolutionaries who think in terms of the destruction of the existing social order in order to create a new social order in the world. These revolutionaries are the New Age elite Boomers, the New Totalitarians [26]. They now control every public institution in the United States of America. Their 'quiet' revolution, beginning with the counter-culture revolution of their youth, is nearly complete. It was based on the intellectual foundation of the 'cultural Marxists' of the Frankfurt School. Its completion depends on keeping the American male in his psychic 'iron cage.'

The confluence of radical feminism and 'cultural Marxism' within the span of a single generation, that of the elite Boomers (possibly the most dangerous [27] generation in America's history), has imposed this yoke on the American male. It remains to be seen whether or not he will continue his 'voluntary submission' to a future of slavery in a new American matriarchy, the precursor to a state of complete anarchy.

If we allow this subversion of American values and interests to continue, we will (in future generations) lose all that our ancestors suffered and died for. We are forewarned. A reading of history -- it is all in mainstream historical accounts -- tells us that we are about to lose the most precious thing we have -- our individual freedoms.

http://www.newtotalitarians.com/FrankfurtSchool.html
food for thought!
December 2nd, 2005  
gladius
 
I've known this for a long time, that this Cultural Marxism, otherwise known as Political Correctness and left wing political thinking, will indeed lead to the destruction of Western Civilization. All you need to do is look at Europe if they do not alter their course they will not last another 50 years, that's a real life example if you doubt what I am saying.

Also interesting, was the this Culutral Marxism through feminism is transforming us into a Matriarcal soicety.

Throughout history no matriarcal soicety has ever been dominant or survived long. The ones that were able to survive and rule for long periods have always been patriacal societies. If we turn into a matriarcal soicety we will follow suit into the trash heap of history.

If you don't beleive me again my example is Europe thier political correctness is slowly turning them into a matriacal society, within fifty years if the course is not altered they willl give way to Muslim culture which is an extremely patriacal society.
December 4th, 2005  
Mohmar Deathstrike
 
 
I don't see how Europe is becoming a matriarchal society, but I do see how it's becoming a society of . My reasoning is different from yours though. While you claim that Europeans are pussies because they're not fronting towards islam or something, I claim that that our leaders don't have the to stand up to the hegemoniac accross the pond, otherwise known as... well, you guys.

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December 4th, 2005  
gladius
 
When I say Matriacal, I mean influenced by feminist ideals which are one of the pillars of political correctness, which coincides with the idea of nuturing everything even though some things may cause massive harm later.

Whatever the case because Europe is full of politiaclly correct pussies they will not last more than 50 years, if they keep going they way they are going.


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I claim that that our leaders don't have the to stand up to the hegemoniac accross the pond, otherwise known as... well, you guys.
France did. What did it get them. Nothing! Of course maybe you haven't notices the riots there just recently. Like I said Europe will not last 50 years.
December 4th, 2005  
Mohmar Deathstrike
 
 
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France did. What did it get them. Nothing! Of course maybe you haven't notices the riots there just recently. Like I said Europe will not last 50 years.
France did not. It's leaders pretended to do so in order to get more votes, by not going into Iraq. If they had actually stood up, they wouldn't have sent any troops to Afghanistan for instace. They would also be fighting the alleged CIA "torture flights" more intensively.

Besides, if France had invaded Iraq, do you think the riots wouldn't have happened?

Furthermore, your country has its shares of political correctness too. I heard that school edidtions of Huckelberry Finn have censored the n-word and if you do something against someone who happens to belong to an ethnic minority, it will automatically be a "hate crime".
December 4th, 2005  
bulldogg
 
 
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Furthermore, your country has its shares of political correctness too. I heard that school edidtions of Huckelberry Finn have censored the n-word and if you do something against someone who happens to belong to an ethnic minority, it will automatically be a "hate crime".
What you heard about the latter is absolute manure and I would wash my ears out if I were you before it turns into a nasty infection.
December 4th, 2005  
gladius
 
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France did not. It's leaders pretended to do so in order to get more votes, by not going into Iraq. If they had actually stood up, they wouldn't have sent any troops to Afghanistan for instace. They would also be fighting the alleged CIA "torture flights" more intensively.
What are you suggesting they don't even help out on the war on terror, no matter how little, but directly oppose the US at every turn. What good will that do anybody, this is also France's concern. I'm starting to think there must be rot in your brain.

Like I said within 50 years Europe will be no more, especially if the people like you over there have their way. Unless of course they fall to invasion within 20 years.

Btw weren't you the genius who said only 0.01 present of the Muslims populous will participate in the uprissing if an invasion occurs? Well the riots in France proved you wrong didn't it.

So another of you genius suggestions would be for Europe to directly and totally oppose and the US, yes that's sooo smart.


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Besides, if France had invaded Iraq, do you think the riots wouldn't have happened?
It did them no good for them not to, so they might as well have. Helping in Iraq might even help them in the long run, to see that democracy is established in the Middle east.


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Furthermore, your country has its shares of political correctness too. I heard that school edidtions of Huckelberry Finn have censored the n-word and if you do something against someone who happens to belong to an ethnic minority, it will automatically be a "hate crime".
Like bulldog said about your ears.

Besides a little (only a little) political correctness is sometimes adds balance, what I am talking about is Europe which is totally ruled and overrun by it.
December 4th, 2005  
Mohmar Deathstrike
 
 
I think you're the one trying to rot my brain with your posts because you want it to be as crappy as your own brain.

You don't even know what the percentage of rioters was in comparison to the entire muslim population of France. A simple google search on "number of rioters" will show you that 4700 had been arrested. France's muslim population is about 7 million. Also, there's no guarantee that the rioters were 100% muslim. So even if they were, the rioters would make up about 1% of France's muslim population

Not supporting American wars is not the same as actively opposing them.

You have not given any evidence that political correctness is worse in Europe than it is in America. Also, you haven't proven how feminism is stronger in Europe than America.
December 5th, 2005  
gladius
 
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I think you're the one trying to rot my brain with your posts because you want it to be as crappy as your own brain.

You don't even know what the percentage of rioters was in comparison to the entire muslim population of France. A simple google search on "number of rioters" will show you that 4700 had been arrested. France's muslim population is about 7 million. Also, there's no guarantee that the rioters were 100% muslim. So even if they were, the rioters would make up about 1% of France's muslim population
So they arrested ALL the rioters? I don't think so. Who knows how many TOTAL rioters there were.

Even if it really were 1% look how much damage they did, what if that number were up to 2% thats double the damage. You said only 0.01% would participate, 1% is 100 times that amount. This is clear evidence how naive your thinking really is. Not to mention after this has happened you still havent faced up to the reality of the matter.

If 1% can do that much damage, how many more will start an uprissing when the Mahdi comes it going to be more than 1%, and how much more damage will they do, not only that but they will be involved in Jihad, which these people weren't.

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Not supporting American wars is not the same as actively opposing them.
So really are suggesting Europe actively oppose America right? You need to make yourself clear in what you are suggesting, you seem to be going back and forth between the two, another reason I think you have brain rot. Which one is it, actively oppose, or not support?

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You have not given any evidence that political correctness is worse in Europe than it is in America. Also, you haven't proven how feminism is stronger in Europe than America.
Hahaha, do I even need to give any evidence of this, its pretty obvoius to anybody. Just look at the population polls and governments of Europe which are mostly left leaning and socialist. You yourself are clear evidence of that.

If you want we can argue this topic, but I'm telling you right now, you dont have much of a chance, but if you want to look like a total moron thats up to you.

Anyways there is alot political correctness here in the US as well, but not as much as Europe. But there are those who want to turn the US into something like Europe, where political correctness, cultural Marxism and all that go along with it rule. If that happens then the USA will be doomed as well.
December 5th, 2005  
Mohmar Deathstrike
 
 
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So they arrested ALL the rioters? I don't think so. Who knows how many TOTAL rioters there were.

Even if it really were 1% look how much damage they did, what if that number were up to 2% thats double the damage. You said only 0.01% would participate, 1% is 100 times that amount. This is clear evidence how naive your thinking really is. Not to mention after this has happened you still havent faced up to the reality of the matter.
Have u got a link to the post in which I stated 0.01% would participate?
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If 1% can do that much damage, how many more will start an uprissing when the Mahdi comes it going to be more than 1%, and how much more damage will they do, not only that but they will be involved in Jihad, which these people weren't.
This whole Mahdi thing is still just a theory of yours. Devout Jews are still expecting their Messiah. Why doesn't he ever show up? What would the Mahdi do do make him different from other Muslim leaders? Couldn't Ayatollah Khomeini have been regarded as the Mahdi for some Muslims? What about Ayatollah Al-Sistani, or even Bin Laden?

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So really are suggesting Europe actively oppose America right? You need to make yourself clear in what you are suggesting, you seem to be going back and forth between the two, another reason I think you have brain rot. Which one is it, actively oppose, or not support?
Okay what I'm suggesting is that European countries pull out of Iraq, Afghanistan and other places that have been invaded by the US. They should also do more to prevent Europeans or foreigners in Europe to be kidnapped by the CIA and search suspected CIA planes for prisoners.

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Hahaha, do I even need to give any evidence of this, its pretty obvoius to anybody.
LOL, the retardedness pf that statement cracks me up

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Just look at the population polls and governments of Europe which are mostly left leaning and socialist. You yourself are clear evidence of that.
So left leaning and socialist=politically correct?

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Originally Posted by gladius
If you want we can argue this topic, but I'm telling you right now, you dont have much of a chance, but if you want to look like a total moron thats up to you.
That's a typical statemet of someone who's running out of arguments. But, I don't want to generalize here, so I'll assume you still have some.

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Originally Posted by gladius
If that happens then the USA will be doomed as well.
Ultimately, all states are doomed.