Which country threats your nation's security in the future - Page 4




 
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September 27th, 2004  
FlyingFrog
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 03USMC
I am calm. I would like too know whos terms a reunifaction would be made under?
Of course under our terms, since we have bigger fists.

I don't think this is a joke, this is the reality of world, don't you think so?
September 27th, 2004  
03USMC
 
 
Thats what I thought. So if this is the case and Tawain balks will the PRC resort to military force?
September 27th, 2004  
FlyingFrog
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 03USMC
Thats what I thought. So if this is the case and Tawain balks will the PRC resort to military force?
PLA is always preparing for the worst.

But following are still PLA's stance:
1. If Taiwan declares independence,it's war.
2. If Taiwan develops nukes, it's war.
3. If foreign troops station in Taiwan, it's war.

Otherwise, it is peace, Taiwan can do what they want, no trouble.
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September 27th, 2004  
G.A.F.E.S.
 

Topic: ......


I support China in this case.
September 27th, 2004  
Chocobo_Blitzer
 
Beyond name, Taiwan is basicly free, right? It isn't being forced to accept any Chinese doctrines?
September 27th, 2004  
FlyingFrog
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chocobo_Blitzer
Beyond name, Taiwan is basicly free, right? It isn't being forced to accept any Chinese doctrines?
Yes, it is true.

Mainland's stance after unification is:
Taiwan can keep their army, everything, except that they must admit Taiwan is part of China.

Hel, their official name is "Republic of China", what shame of those seperatists.

We do show them mercy before the war, if they go too far, there wouldn't be mercy more, we will subdue them and make them cry and pay.

We say that in Chinese: I give you face, but you don't respect your face, then sorry, blame yourself then.
September 27th, 2004  
Boobies
 
 

Topic: Well...


Chocobo, currently half of the population wants to be independant. The other half wants to renuification.

But, I would like to ask the reason why the first half want independence. Is it base on the hatred of Communism, or something else.

I truely believe it was the first one. Why doesn't the U.S. help much about the unification? Is it totally ideological (Capitalism and Commie) or strategic value of TW (but the ideologocal gap is closing)?

I also want to ask why the TW people never tried to overthrow the nationalist party, since their renounciation of anything about Chinese, instead they went along and follow its lead. I guess they allowed themselves to be ruled under the Chinese governance. After 50 years, they changed their tied with Chinese so quick. Why? Wow, they are so pragmatic and true to themselves.

I also want to ask if the U.S. wanted democracy and independance of TW. Shouldn't the U.S. help TW natives to overthrow the Nationalists for its dictatorship (Chiang Kek Shiek) in the 1950s and onward?
September 27th, 2004  
Damien435
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Boobies
To Damien, the main goal is to reunite with Taiwan without bloodshed just like east and west Germany. if you can open up your mind, maybe problems are not as bad as it seems.
No, China's goal is to retake Taiwan, period, they do not care how they do it, hence why they occasional fire a couple missiles in the ocean witin miles of Taiwan.

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Originally Posted by Boobies
China is not going to let go of Taiwan. Just take it that way. And some TW people do want to reunite.

Seruously, there are people who want to reunite with China. If you choose to ignore the fact, then you are blind as a bat, or only choose to see what you want to see.

Are you goign to force TW whom want to unify to adopt to your opinions or ideas of independence?

Let those two work out of differences rather having third force to play behind the scene.
Yes, and their are people here in the US who want the US to go Communist, but they are a very small minority of the population, like the people in Taiwan who want to reunify with China.

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Originally Posted by FlyingFrog
Quote:
Originally Posted by 03USMC
I am calm. I would like too know whos terms a reunifaction would be made under?
Of course under our terms, since we have bigger fists.

I don't think this is a joke, this is the reality of world, don't you think so?
Yes, China has bigger fists than Taiwan, but the USN would crush any attempts by China to invade Taiwan within the next 15 years. This is the reality of the world.

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Originally Posted by FlyingFrog
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chocobo_Blitzer
Beyond name, Taiwan is basicly free, right? It isn't being forced to accept any Chinese doctrines?
Yes, it is true.

Mainland's stance after unification is:
Taiwan can keep their army, everything, except that they must admit Taiwan is part of China.

Hel, their official name is "Republic of China", what shame of those seperatists.

We do show them mercy before the war, if they go too far, there wouldn't be mercy more, we will subdue them and make them cry and pay.

We say that in Chinese: I give you face, but you don't respect your face, then sorry, blame yourself then.
Yes, and China's name is People's Republic of China, anybody else see the hypocricy there?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Boobies
Chocobo, currently half of the population wants to be independant. The other half wants to renuification.

But, I would like to ask the reason why the first half want independence. Is it base on the hatred of Communism, or something else.

I truely believe it was the first one. Why doesn't the U.S. help much about the unification? Is it totally ideological (Capitalism and Commie) or strategic value of TW (but the ideologocal gap is closing)?

I also want to ask why the TW people never tried to overthrow the nationalist party, since their renounciation of anything about Chinese, instead they went along and follow its lead. I guess they allowed themselves to be ruled under the Chinese governance. After 50 years, they changed their tied with Chinese so quick. Why? Wow, they are so pragmatic and true to themselves.

I also want to ask if the U.S. wanted democracy and independance of TW. Shouldn't the U.S. help TW natives to overthrow the Nationalists for its dictatorship (Chiang Kek Shiek) in the 1950s and onward?
Perhaps they people of Taiwan never tried to overthrow the nationalists becuase they were happy with the nationalists in power. And Taiwan does have a democracy, they just had elections last year, when was the last state wide election in China? 1924?
September 27th, 2004  
A Can of Man
 
 
I had a few chats with Chinese people about this issue and it's not worth the debate.
I even hear this, "Korean people are actually Chinese," crap from them.
But of course they always put on a kind, benevolent face. It's just how they work really. Along with their tactics. They tend not to be very outward and aggressive, rather, patient and calculating.
September 27th, 2004  
Damien435
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by the_13th_redneck
I had a few chats with Chinese people about this issue and it's not worth the debate.
I even hear this, "Korean people are actually Chinese," crap from them.
But of course they always put on a kind, benevolent face. It's just how they work really. Along with their tactics. They tend not to be very outward and aggressive, rather, patient and calculating.
Oh yes, the Korean=Chinese issue, that is interesting. But it is just the Chinese way of thinking, look at the history of China, they have not changed in 3000 years.