Could USA defeat USSR before the WW2 begun?? - Page 9




 
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January 14th, 2005  
USAFAUX2004
 
 
also Stalin wasred all the seniot officers. so there were no experienced leaders
January 15th, 2005  
Damien435
 
 
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Originally Posted by doomshot
US could have won against the USSR before WW2 because the Red Army was severly depleted, and had primitive technology.
The US' technology was not a whole lot better, with the exception of our Air Corps and Navy, our armed forces were almost equal, and the T-34 was the best tank of the era, better than all but the most powerful german "super" tanks.
January 17th, 2005  
Darcia
 
The main part about the fact is the Soviet tanks still have to make it over here to fight us. wich is where our navy would have hopfully come in and stopped alot of it.
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January 18th, 2005  
USAFAUX2004
 
 
I thought this was about USA coming and whoping Russia
January 18th, 2005  
Darcia
 
eh, they both have the same problems when it comes to transporting weapons. The Americans just happen to have a little advantage.
January 19th, 2005  
godofthunder9010
 
 
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Originally Posted by doomshot
US could have won against the USSR before WW2 because the Red Army was severly depleted
The Red Army was about 20 times the size of the US Army. Personally, I don't think that puts the odds in the USA's favor.

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and had primitive technology.
Well, they had better tanks and more of them. Their aircraft were definitely not inferior either. Once again, they had a lot more of them than we did. We hadn't really focused much effort on making a strong military. We weren't focussed on making quality military hardware either. The USSR was HEAVILY focussed on military buildup and technology. I've yet to see it accurately depicted unfortunately. The Red Army was enormous in 1939. They were also reasonably well equipped. The popular myth is makes the opposite statement.

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Also when America's in a major war almost all our industrial capacity can be converted for war purposes. Also we had a bunch of people them who thought war would be fun and exciting. Which means our army would of had motivation while the Soviets would mainly be poor unfortunate conscripts. Though Assuming WW2 happened afterward, Well let's say you and my wouldn't be having this conversation.
The reason the USA was in no possition to take on the USSR prior to 1939 was simple. The USSR had a mostly wartime economy in peacetime. The USA had next to nothing, with the notable exception of the Pacific Fleet. I posted the sizes of the relative armies earlier BTW. You're expecting a whole lot of a 175,000 man army. By 1945, the USA had the opportunity to make up for its lack of military. It took several years to build one.
January 19th, 2005  
AmericanSweetheart
 
 
It all depends on how we went about it I think. If we tried to invade no but if we made them come to us and fight then yes. In history anyone who has fought a battle in their own climate on their own land has lost horribly.
January 19th, 2005  
Doppleganger
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by doomshot
US could have won against the USSR before WW2 because the Red Army was severly depleted, and had primitive technology. Also when America's in a major war almost all our industrial capacity can be converted for war purposes. Also we had a bunch of people them who thought war would be fun and exciting. Which means our army would of had motivation while the Soviets would mainly be poor unfortunate conscripts. Though Assuming WW2 happened afterward, Well let's say you and my wouldn't be having this conversation.
The Red Army in 1939 was the largest standing army in the world, had the best tanks in the world, and had more of them than anyone else.

There's no way in hell the US Army could have taken on the Red Army at that time (even if it had been possible) and been anything other than decisively defeated, smashed even.
January 20th, 2005  
Darcia
 
Size could be a factor though in trying to control the soilders and keep everything going right in order.
January 20th, 2005  
godofthunder9010
 
 
Ultimately, it all comes back to the same thing: Neither nation could have really attacked each other without going to A LOT of trouble. Neither one was even slightly interested in doing so anyways.