could ancient bows out-kill modern handguns?

are guns more powerful than bows and arrows?


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godofthunder9010 said:
While some ancient bows were very impressive, they are most certainly not capable of doing what guns can do. The English Longbow and the Mongolian Recurve Bow and many others were terrifyingly deadly, but nothing to compare to a high powered rifle or a fully automatic weapon.

ye but they arent handguns you idiot! but good point :bravo: :sniper: :firedevi:
 
Well, an arrow could be lobbed over an obstruction where as the curve in the flight path of the bullet is far to gradual to allow for such a thing.
 
Damien435.... Have you ever seen a Vickers Machine gun hose down the back slope of a hill by firing over the the top of it.
 
JulesLee said:
lol guns are superior..
even muskets that need reloading.......

during the japanese invasion of 7 year war in korea......

it was those long time reload muskets vs bows and arrows......

those muskets .. well pwnd the koreans..

It depends.

In the hands of a well trained archer, a longbow is a far superior weapon against most troops, than a muzzle loaded musket.

The advantages were, in the hands of an expert, a longbow could fire almost 5 times as fast, and it was highly accurate.

The disadvantages were, longbows couldn't penetrate plate armour and it needed years of training to become an expert.

While it took only a few hours to train a man to fire a musket, and a musket ball could penetrate plate armour.
 
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Bows have their uses. Like it has been said. Anyone can be trained in a very short time to use a handgun. A bowman on the other hand takes much longer. Not to mention the fact that it does take a long time to make an arrow that will fly true and will not shatter upon impact. The actual bow itself is subject to weather whereas a handgun would not be.

Unlike a handgun if it rains your bow is rendered in effective due to a wet string.

If you run out of arrows (Let us say you carry 100) then you will have to stop and make more.

If you run out of bullets (let us say 100) you will have to have more made.

Bow and arrows take up much more space and weight than a handgun with the same amount of ammunition.

You can fire a handgun in one hand showing very little of your body. With a bow you can not.

As for lobbing arrows over a hill, if you can not see your enemy how accurate do you think you will be? No more so than with a handgun I imagine, your chances of hitting them increase is all.

Most handguns have an accurate range to a point target of at least 25 meters. Many will go accurate to 50 meters with a good marksman. A bow has farther range, but then again can be more affected by wind than a single round from a handgun.

Lastly, a handgun is effective from pointblank range (i.e. you can see he has some food stuck in his teeth and his breath smells bad) a bow is not.
 
It all depends on the situation. Of course, modern firearms outdo bows and arrows in many aspects (distance, stopping capacity, reload times, etc...), but ammunition is harder to come by if you were say...under siege.

However, I'd still take a C7 assault rifle over a bow anyday.

BTW: pwnd is a misspelling of owned used in online games. I'm not sure of the origins, but that's pretty much all it is.
 
NCdt Steliga said:
It all depends on the situation. Of course, modern firearms outdo bows and arrows in many aspects (distance, stopping capacity, reload times, etc...), but ammunition is harder to come by if you were say...under siege.

However, I'd still take a C7 assault rifle over a bow anyday.

BTW: pwnd is a misspelling of owned used in online games. I'm not sure of the origins, but that's pretty much all it is.

If you were undersiege you would still need to be able to procure wood and fletchings and other sundry items to make an arrow that will not only fly well but penetrate the target. The making of a good bow and arrows is not something you can just go and do. It is an art in itself.
 
Well Muskets take quite a while to load. A TRAINED MAN can fire 3 rounds in a minute!! And thats incredibly slow in a battle field. Muskets were not known for it accuracy either. With a bow you can fire faster. And you could reuse the arrows. An arrow can do more damage than a bullet, and more painful to take out.
 
It all depends on the circumstances if you ask me. If it is more of a long range battle then a trained bowman will easily overpower the handguns but lets say you were in a more confined building type of battlefield then the hand gun will overpower the bow with its ability to fire faster and without having to pull back a string everytime.
 
Ask any legionair about the Silent kiss of Death and he'll tell you what he prefers. I heard someone who was telling about the usage of cross-bows during the troubles in Ireland. The shooter was ex-legionair nad very good at what he did.
I reckon it is not so much about power but about how handy it is. SOmetimes it is a bow and often a hand gun.
 
Damien435 said:
Well, an arrow could be lobbed over an obstruction where as the curve in the flight path of the bullet is far to gradual to allow for such a thing.

damn right!!!!!!
and if your arrow hits the enemt and doesnt kill, you have a bl**dy long thing sticking out of your arm giving you splinters and it could also sever muscles with its broad head, wheras a bullet would simply go through, not fully sever. but still, very good arguments on both sides and a damn good debate! w00t!

redcoat said:
It depends.

In the hands of a well trained archer, a longbow is a far superior weapon against most troops, than a muzzle loaded musket.

The advantages were, in the hands of an expert, a longbow could fire almost 5 times as fast, and it was highly accurate.

The disadvantages were, longbows couldn't penetrate plate armour and it needed years of training to become an expert.

While it took only a few hours to train a man to fire a musket, and a musket ball could penetrate plate armour.

yes they could penetrate plate armor, they were very powerful, dependingon construction materials etc etc like if you make a bow out of a 6 foot yew sapling compared to a 100-year-old redwood, you end up with a very dangerous weapon
 
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bulldogg said:
I love these generalisations about weapons. :roll:

Which handgun and which bow, it makes a difference. A .22 short does not have a range exceeding that of a 150 lb draw compound bow. Unless of course you have a tail wind and fire it from the open cockpit of an F-15 just as it re-enters the earth's outer atmosphere and you aim it at the earth. :lol:

I think bulldogg is on to something !!

Each had and still has it's uses.

Using the best bow you can get vs the best handgun you can get I would pick the handgun over the bow anyday.

See my previous post for various reasons why. One way or the other, if you run out of ammo you are pretty much out of luck.
 
HEy Hey!~ Did you all know that a bullet cannot penetrate a sandbag, an arrow can? So if you are under siege and the enemy is behind the sandbags, shoot them with arrows!
 
bulldogg said:
Time and place, each weapon has its place. Just ask any of the vets from Vietnam who worked with the Montagnard and their deadly little crossbows.
This one is a no-shitter. Those little guys were some of the deadliest fighters I've ever seen. They could take a man down at ranges and under conditions you have to see to believe. Some of the arrows were no longer than your forearm and could stop a full grown man dead in his tracks with little or no sound (very spooky). They could be used under conditions where a bulky rifle was a hindrance ... having said that ... I would rather have a long gun where jungle growth isn't a problem ... after all ... on an open battlefield with little or no over grown jungle foliage, crossbows lose their advantage.

SO - DEPENDING ON THE CONDITIONS UNDER WHICH THE BATTLE IS TO BE FOUGHT, A CROSBOW CAN DEFINITELY BE DEADLIER THAN A GUN (or vice versa).
 
zander_0633 said:
HEy Hey!~ Did you all know that a bullet cannot penetrate a sandbag, an arrow can? So if you are under siege and the enemy is behind the sandbags, shoot them with arrows!

Did you know that a 50lb pull compound bow with a broad head or field point arrowhead will not penetrate 3ft of styrofoam at 15 yards but a bullet from .22+ caliber handgun will penetrate it fully at 50 yards? *ponders*

Depends on the size of the bullet and weapon firing it as well as the range. Pull of the bow, flight path and fletchings, as well as the type of arrow head on the arrow. Not to mention how thick the sandbag is or the range at which each of these are fired.

I know I would not want to stand there with a sandbag as my only protection against someone firing a .44 magnum at me.
 
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