Combat vets and non-combat vets - Page 3




 
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July 20th, 2010  
PJ24
 
 
It's like talking to a really thick wall.
July 20th, 2010  
LeMask
 
Well, KJ said the same thing.

Quote:
"A well trained soldier with a moving intellect capable of imagening anything is the deadliest thing we can put on the battlefield.
He will find a way to solve any problem with the assets at his disposal.
He will pay a higher price on the personal level then the soldier who just does what he is told without thinking because he can imagine the consequences of his actions to a higher degree.
But that is the type of man we need."
Some people have the necessary imagination to know what could happen in the battlefield. The imagination part doesnt intervene only in finding solutions to potential problems... It also helps in "combat readiness". Some are shocked by what they could see in the battlefield because they never took the time to think about what could happen...
July 20th, 2010  
KJ
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by LeMask
If you are not ready to see a bullet go through the head of one of your people, well, stay home... You arent ready for war. You have to understand exactly what's going on.



The military should invest in the education of the soldiers. The more educated they are, the more able to rationalize what they see, the more ready they will be in dealing with what they will see in the battlefield. Then it will be less suicides and smarter people in the uniforms.
Oh no you donīt lump me in with your bollocks..


No I do not believe it has anything to do with your education.
Noone can "rationalize" combat, if you try you most certainly go crazy.
And noo, you canīt be ready for what you see on the battlefield, edjucated or not.

Now try to let your own theories based on your guesstemations stand on their own and for you.
Iīm not about to call service members stupid, as YOU effectively did, anytime soon.
Well I might call some stupid, but not infront of you. You havenīt earned that right.

And why are you in this thread to begin with?
I thought the thread was about vets?
In this thread Counterstrike doesnīt count.

//KJ.
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July 20th, 2010  
03USMC
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by LeMask
Well, KJ said the same thing.


Some people have the necessary imagination to know what could happen in the battlefield. The imagination part doesnt intervene only in finding solutions to potential problems... It also helps in "combat readiness". Some are shocked by what they could see in the battlefield because they never took the time to think about what could happen...
Since you have no experiance and thus no clue what combat is like why don't you quit while our behind and drop the subject. This current "you can imagine it" and "mental preparedness clap trap you are spouting is not gonna turn out well.
July 20th, 2010  
A Can of Man
 
 
Hell even I'm staying out of this one for the most part.
July 21st, 2010  
Team Infidel
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 03USMC
Since you have no experiance and thus no clue what combat is like why don't you quit while our behind and drop the subject. This current "you can imagine it" and "mental preparedness clap trap you are spouting is not gonna turn out well.

Hooah...,..
July 23rd, 2010  
DTop
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 03USMC
Since you have no experiance and thus no clue what combat is like why don't you quit while our behind and drop the subject. This current "you can imagine it" and "mental preparedness clap trap you are spouting is not gonna turn out well.
I'm staying out of this one too as it started as a veteran to veteran discussion. I'll just say that I must agree with 03 on this one.
August 5th, 2010  
muscogeemike
 
I too will agree with 03 and will enclose this "In the age of mobile warfare, the battle is fought and decided by the quartermasters before the shooting begins". Field Marshal Erwin Rommel
August 5th, 2010  
A Can of Man
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by muscogeemike
I too will agree with 03 and will enclose this "In the age of mobile warfare, the battle is fought and decided by the quartermasters before the shooting begins". Field Marshal Erwin Rommel
That kind of war hasn't been fought in a very very long time.
August 8th, 2010  
KJ
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by muscogeemike
I too will agree with 03 and will enclose this "In the age of mobile warfare, the battle is fought and decided by the quartermasters before the shooting begins". Field Marshal Erwin Rommel
That was about the last time that statement rang true as well.
If you donīt count desert shield.
Warefare are moving rapidly into the UW/COIN area where quartermasters while important do not decide battles (unless they are being attacked behind the front lines).

What decides wars today are agile minds and swift thinking Squad/Team leaders.

Never before during this scale of conflict has so much been decided right there on the spot by Teamleaders.
Itīs an awesome challange for any military to adopt itīs commandstructure to be able to effectively fight a counterinsurgency.
As well as getting the right men in the right positions where they are able to make those splitsecond decisions deciding the outcome of a battle.
"Winning the battles, loosing the war" is a lesson that have been learned over and over.
Hopefully we havenīt forgotten it this time around.

//KJ.