nah dont worry about it my parents arnt easy to convince

well hopefully you can convince your parents to let you join

Yeah I have heard of it. I see these guys that walk around school with their CAP unifroms looking like sh*t, unbuttoned shirts, unironed tops and bottoms, unpolished footwear, and crooked covers. That makes me mad when people make themselves look bad because you make everyone else look bad. EVERYONE who does this, you know who you are. And know this: You are a disgrace to not only yourself, but your squad, your platoon, and your company or division. I think that you should not be allowed to be a JROTC, CAP, YOUNG MARINES, or SEA CADET youth organization if you cannot keep your uniform maintained.


PO3 Jackson
United Stated Naval Sea Cadet Corps

Originally Posted by SureShot223

Yeah I have heard of it. I see these guys that walk around school with their CAP unifroms looking like sh*t, unbuttoned shirts, unironed tops and bottoms, unpolished footwear, and crooked covers. That makes me mad when people make themselves look bad because you make everyone else look bad. EVERYONE who does this, you know who you are. And know this: You are a disgrace to not only yourself, but your squad, your platoon, and your company or division. I think that you should not be allowed to be a JROTC, CAP, YOUNG MARINES, or SEA CADET youth organization if you cannot keep your uniform maintained.


PO3 Jackson
United Stated Naval Sea Cadet Corps

Well well, I can't say that I didn't expect something like this from you...

I think I'll let a few other people deal with this. For the time being, I don't think i could handle it correctly, and ultimately, I don't even know where to start...

Originally Posted by SureShot223

Yeah I have heard of it. I see these guys that walk around school with their CAP unifroms looking like sh*t, unbuttoned shirts, unironed tops and bottoms, unpolished footwear, and crooked covers. That makes me mad when people make themselves look bad because you make everyone else look bad. EVERYONE who does this, you know who you are. And know this: You are a disgrace to not only yourself, but your squad, your platoon, and your company or division. I think that you should not be allowed to be a JROTC, CAP, YOUNG MARINES, or SEA CADET youth organization if you cannot keep your uniform maintained.


PO3 Jackson
United Stated Naval Sea Cadet Corps

Well, I have seen Sea Cadet with the ribbons wrong, hair out of regs, just chit chatting with their buds making the USN look bad and their organization look even worse. Being in Civil Air Patrol and looking bad is not the organizations fault, its the units fault. So why don't you be a good cadet and do something about it regardless that it's not your organization. Ultamately you represent the same thing, US Military. I know that in my unit in NJ no one would ever wear their uniform in school or such unless they were with me as the ranking officer doing recruiting. You also would never see them looking that bad as you described. Must be the unit near you that is bad.

On the contrary I went to an airshow in Las Vegas where there was one Seamen Apprentice yelling and screaming at the cadets thinking he was so cool. He uniform was sub-standard and thats giving him a complement. I have seen worse Sea Cadets in my day then I have CAP cadets. Sorry about your outlook, we'll fix our situation but you need to look at yours before criticizing.

Cadet Major Elliott Korona, CAP
Former National Cadet Advisory Council Member

Whoa, cadets take it easy. Well, who would want to wear their CAP uniform to school in the first place anyway. Isn't there some kind of rule that says if a cadet wears his or her own uniform to school would be dismissed from his or her squadron? I not sure but I read it somewhere in the manuel. If one wears the uniform, there are certain responsiblities one has to hold. Anyone in the uniform represents everyone in the services.

Originally Posted by cadetgirl10

Isn't there some kind of rule that says if a cadet wears his or her own uniform to school would be dismissed from his or her squadron? I not sure but I read it somewhere in the manuel.

No. However the Uniform Manual says that the uniform may not be worn for more than one hour prior to/after a meeting/event with the exception of travel time. Also, you may not wear your uniform to a Non-CAP function.

Originally Posted by SARboy229

No. However the Uniform Manual says that the uniform may not be worn for more than one hour prior to/after a meeting/event with the exception of travel time. Also, you may not wear your uniform to a Non-CAP function.

But yuo can wear it to school if it is ok with the Sq. Commander and the Principal for recruiting

Originally Posted by USAFAUX2004

But yuo can wear it to school if it is ok with the Sq. Commander and the Principal for recruiting

This would constitute a CAP activity. As long as a form 31 is filled out for the recruiting it is an activity where that means you can wear the uni.

Originally Posted by Gorfour20

Well, I have seen Sea Cadet with the ribbons wrong, hair out of regs, just chit chatting with their buds making the USN look bad and their organization look even worse. Being in Civil Air Patrol and looking bad is not the organizations fault, its the units fault. So why don't you be a good cadet and do something about it regardless that it's not your organization. Ultamately you represent the same thing, US Military. I know that in my unit in NJ no one would ever wear their uniform in school or such unless they were with me as the ranking officer doing recruiting. You also would never see them looking that bad as you described. Must be the unit near you that is bad.

On the contrary I went to an airshow in Las Vegas where there was one Seamen Apprentice yelling and screaming at the cadets thinking he was so cool. He uniform was sub-standard and thats giving him a complement. I have seen worse Sea Cadets in my day then I have CAP cadets. Sorry about your outlook, we'll fix our situation but you need to look at yours before criticizing.

Cadet Major Elliott Korona, CAP
Former National Cadet Advisory Council Member

Ok Major, answer me on this: You are not in the Sea Cadets so how would you know if the ribbons are wrong. You said that the cadets were chit chatting with their buds making the Navy look bad. Well for one, there is nothing wrong with communicating and we are not in the Navy so how were they making the Navy look bad. I mean they are clearly wearing the USNSCC flasher. Just like you said its the units fault, not the organizations, so you are in no position to be saying that they are making the organization look worse than they present themselves. And you are right, I represent the US Military, that is why I get so mad when people disrespect the uniform. You also represent the military and I think that it is pathetic that you are only mad about Sea Cadet uniforms. I get mad at Sea Cadets also when their uniforms are unsatisfactory also and I correct it. The CAP should have some of their cadets look in a mirror and see what they look like. I went with my brother once to see what the CAP was like and I didnt undermine them untill I saw what their organization was really like. When I left, I could not believe that there was an organization that played hide and go seek for PT, where the officers and NCOs walked around in gas masks to make themselves look like enemies. I mean they drill at a school! It struck me funny that the cadets that had just joined marched better than the cadets and officers that had been in for years. You mentioned the SA screaming at the cadets ''thinking he was cool." What, do you read minds? He was most likely carrying out diciplinary actions, unlike the CAP not being able to order their cadets to do push-ups. The Sea Cadets have to go to boot camp before they are actually Sea Cadets and it is no weekend drill. It is Marines in your face for 2-3 weeks where you are taught to maintain yourself and you do real PT. Tell me the CAP does that. And I might add, it is no easy task. The cadets that you saw were probably cadets that have not been to boot camp and are just learning the ropes. Don't get me wrong, I dont hate the CAP. If you are interested in the Air Force and stuff like that then stick with it and there is nothing wrong with that. But if you dont have the will to present yourself in a professional manner, including maintenence of uniforms, then you need to reconsider yourself, and that goes to all youth military cadets.

PO3 Jackson
USNSCC