Is Christmas Politcally Corectness Going Too Far? - Page 2




 
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Boots
 
December 11th, 2004  
Romero
 
 
It is all very silly. I am not Christian but I am not offended by Christmas.

Anyway, Christ rarely features in Christmas today.
December 11th, 2004  
Locke
 
 
yeah, its rather sad

damn comercialisation
December 11th, 2004  
Trevor
 
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It's actually been proven that Jesus Christ died on December the 25th...he was born on September 11th 3 BC beteen 7:48 and 8:17 PM
Kind of ironic...September 11th.
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Boots
December 11th, 2004  
A Can of Man
 
 
Something's going on man...
December 11th, 2004  
pimp_squeak
 
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Originally Posted by Trevor
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It's actually been proven that Jesus Christ died on December the 25th...he was born on September 11th 3 BC beteen 7:48 and 8:17 PM
Kind of ironic...September 11th.
My parents/church had a huge talk about that...we thought it was interesting too. I'm not religious either...but I do think that religion is an interesting paradox of the world....some people live their whole lives around it.
December 11th, 2004  
A Can of Man
 
 
Actually religion forms the way you think more than you can imagine. The whole approach to life, the fact that you can choose to have a religion or not etc. is formed by... religion.
You could grow up in a society where it is absolutely unthinkable that you don't believe in that one religion and that would make perfect sense to you. Your work ethic, your level of tolerance of new ideas... or intolerance is quite determined by in large by religion. And in saying this, I say religion is a key part of culture.
What most of us don't realize is that really we are programmed from a young age.
The fact that one may not believe in a religion is often a reflection that that society's culture and religion actually facilitate such a concept in the first place.

As time goes on though this seems to be blurring much more.
December 13th, 2004  
Italian Guy
 
 
It's reaaaaally going to far, folks.

Due to some islamic kids in schools here we can't even name Christmas anymore, we gotta call it Winter Party and teachers replace the name Jesus with Virtue in order to be politically correct and not traumatize muslim kids.

It's so sick.
December 13th, 2004  
A Can of Man
 
 
40% of Dutch don't want Muslims to feel welcome in their country anymore. Go figure. It doesn't happen for no reason.
December 13th, 2004  
pimp_squeak
 
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Originally Posted by the_13th_redneck
Actually religion forms the way you think more than you can imagine. The whole approach to life, the fact that you can choose to have a religion or not etc. is formed by... religion.
You could grow up in a society where it is absolutely unthinkable that you don't believe in that one religion and that would make perfect sense to you. Your work ethic, your level of tolerance of new ideas... or intolerance is quite determined by in large by religion. And in saying this, I say religion is a key part of culture.
What most of us don't realize is that really we are programmed from a young age.
The fact that one may not believe in a religion is often a reflection that that society's culture and religion actually facilitate such a concept in the first place.

As time goes on though this seems to be blurring much more.
It's very true, look at the American constitution, even on their money. The phrase isn't "In the president we trust" it's "In god we trust". The basis of marriage, most of our laws, our military, even war itself is based on religion. I think that's why our country is going downhill now. Canada was born with healthy Christian/Roman Catholic values and now it's getting reformed with more and more Muslims, hindus, and buddhists everyday. I have no problem with diversity of religion but I think there's a reason why countries with the majority of the people following religions of that creed have been fighting for thousands of years in the past and will liekly fight for thousands of years into the future. I'm not against immigration at all but my country was founded on a set of values that allowed it to succeed and anyone who wants to come into this country should adopt those values, elsewise there are plenty of other countries that would be more than happy to accept them I'm sure.
December 13th, 2004  
A Can of Man
 
 
My philosphy has been that if someone arrives in a country (and intends to stay for good) which has adopted its own ideology, the newcomer should accept it and either live with it or possibly also convert into it and either way, make sure that his/her life style doesn't go against the ideology of the host country. If this is too much to ask, that person really has no business being there.
You may think that statement is racist (as I am told) but notice how it applies to everyone. It doesn't matter what the color of your skin is, or if your nose tilts this way or that way, it's about what's in the head.
If Christmas offends you, you've got to be a bloody idiot to go to a country that has "In God We Trust" on its paper money.
I think what may have happened (not entirely but in many cases) is that a lot of the local population have actually developed sympathy for these people who refuse to adjust or even TOLERATE the local culture and ideology. It's a condition very similar to the Stockholm Syndrome. It's similar that the sympathy doesn't arise from any cause or idea, but because of the human nature of being sympathetic to the weak. So here we have a situation where the helpless foreigner is going against the culture of the host country... what better example of an underdog could there be? And then this grows into a movement... if it has an especially idealistic tone that is politically marketable (as this one is) it becomes a major political force. All the while, these people who are actually trying to tear down the Christian ideologies, values etc. from all public arenas don't realize that it is their life in a predominately Christian environment that has actually allowed them to even consider having a choice in doing this.