Originally Posted by Uncle_Sam

Okaaaaayy..... but still, can You explain alittle bit that invincible stuff..

Hi Uncle Sam, the word “invincible” for PLA just mean that the all wars PLA participated in were successful or were up to PLA’s goals, but is not mean that all battles PLA participated in were successful. I knew in a battle of North Korean War a PLA’s division was defeated by US. However, to some extent I think in this Korean War China is the winner, or at least not the loser. If you know the performance of PLA in this Korean War, you will at least respect PLA.

Originally Posted by Uncle_Sam

What's their training(PLA), their fighting equipment, strategy

I give a US link http://www.comw.org/cmp/index.html , that can answer your above questions well.
Although I don’t agree the points of their materials in all aspects, I think their analyses basically correct.

Thanks for the link.
I never underestimate anyone.... or I try not to underestimate anyone....

Originally Posted by devmim

You can recommend it to your Taiwanese roommate.

I doubt it would change anything, but thank you.

You know, the argument could be made that although Taiwan was in fact a part of China until 1949 with the Communist victory in the civil war/revolution at which point it became a seperate nation under the guide of the defeated Nationalists ( http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/...k/geos/tw.html ), that as it was never a part of the PRC, there is no valid claim to "unification," anymore than we in the States could claim northeastern Canada as at the time of our own Revolution it was part of the British holdings in North America.

The China/Taiwan issue came up on the BBC today, which gives a good overview of the current situation and also contains a link to the Pentagon's 2004 assessment of Chinese military capability: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asi...ic/3825927.stm

It is obviously a fast-moving situation: I thought I was pretty well-informed about China's capabilities, but must admit had not noticed they were upgrading their submarine forces so quickly.

This website: http://www.china-defense.com/ features two very interesting articles, a headliner on China's burgeoning amphibious landing capabilities as well one as the deployment of the Flanker Su27/Su30 aircraft. The articles come from a variety of Chinese-speaking writers (inevitably, given the topic matter from Hong Kong and Taiwan). I used this article's estimates of China's air capability in a previous post (the Taiwanese capabilities are fairly well known).

Hopefully that meets the needs for references

The point is that Taiwan has long been an ally for us, and we can't betray it. On the other hand, since Nixon's times, the U.S. ( and the rest of the West following suit ) can't help making business with huge overpopulated speedy-growing nuclear armed China.
It's an unfortunate situation but China won't wage war I think. It just shows muscles every now and then. Who doesn't like to do that ?

Originally Posted by Redneck

I doubt it would change anything, but thank you.

I don¡¯t want to change somebody¡¯ opinion. Everybody should possess his own idea and no one has rights to impose his idea on somebody. But that don¡¯t impede exchanging each other¡¯s idea.

Originally Posted by Redneck

You know, the argument could be made that although Taiwan was in fact a part of China until 1949 with the Communist victory in the civil war/revolution at which point it became a seperate nation under the guide of the defeated Nationalists ( http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/...k/geos/tw.html ), that as it was never a part of the PRC, there is no valid claim to "unification," anymore than we in the States could claim northeastern Canada as at the time of our own Revolution it was part of the British holdings in North America.

The material of your recommended link has an obvious historical error. The error is ¡° Following the Communist victory on the mainland in 1949, 2 million Nationalists fled to Taiwan and established a government using the 1946 constitution drawn up for all of China. ¡±

In fact, the Nationalists established a government, namely People of China (P.China), in 1911 on China¡¯s Mainland after they overthrew the Qing Dynasty. In 1949, the Nationalists¡¯ regime was limited to Taiwan because the Nationalists was defeated by CCP, and the winning CCP¡¯s regime (P.R.China) was limited to Mainland. But both sides have alleged they were the legal representatives of China and there was a China in the world, i.e. Taiwan is a part of China. This situation kept unchanged until the 1990s when the Democratic Progressive Party (DPP) of Taiwan took power. The DPP have been seeking many ways to make Taiwan to be independent, but their efforts are proved to be gainless in nature. So far the Taiwan¡¯s constitution has been still ordaining that P.China consists of Mainland, Taiwan, and Outer Mongolia, which demonstrates Taiwan is still a part of China and Taiwan is only another regime of China and China is just in the state of split. You should notice Taiwan is actually not a nation!!!! If Taiwan had been a nation, US should have acknowledged that Taiwan is a nation and other many nations should have do so too, and the U.N. as well as other international organizations should have accepted Taiwan as their member!!!!!! However, the results are very ironical for you.

BTW, during The Civil War of US, the US has two hostile regimes, namely the North Federal and South Confederation. Shouldn¡¯t we call then the North Federal and South Confederation as two independent nations???? Shouldn¡¯t we call then the North Federal as an invader????? Shouldn¡¯t we have duties to support or provoke the US South to be independent??????

Originally Posted by Italian Guy

The point is that Taiwan has long been an ally for us, and we can't betray it.

Hello Italian Guy, I think perhaps you aren¡¯t concerned about the present international politics, which determines the trend of every country¡¯s military strategy.

If Taiwan has long been an ally for you the West, the China is getting more valuable ally for the European Union than Taiwan, especially for the France and Germany. The France, Germany as well as U.K. decided to support disembargoing weapon to China, and I think it is only problem of time. China¡¯ve already participated in European Galileo satellite Project, which challenges US similar system and can be used in military purpose. China, France and Germany all possess similar views for the world¡¯s situation and oppose the monopolar world.
What the China has made with EU are the ones that US aren¡¯t unwilling to see. In the US eyes, the EU are betraying Taiwan.

Originally Posted by devmim

BTW, during The Civil War of US, the US has two hostile regimes, namely the North Federal and South Confederation. Shouldn¡¯t we call then the North Federal and South Confederation as two independent nations???? Shouldn¡¯t we call then the North Federal as an invader????? Shouldn¡¯t we have duties to support or provoke the US South to be independent??????

I'm sorry, but I don't really understand what you're getting at there. Are you suggesting that in the present day some foreign power should try to assist the South in restarting the Civil War? If so, I'm sorry, but that is ludicrous, if only because I highly doubt any large body of men could be found/organized in the Southern states who truly wanted to rebel again, as much as we may make jokes about yankees and redneck southerners, we're a pretty solidly unified country.

Redneck is right, big standard, everything is tip-top....... I don't see the point!
Anyway Redneck's from the South and I don't think that he wanna split America in 2 ways!

I think i see what hes saying. Hes comparing China as north and tiawon as south. As saying The Brits coming and helping the south Confederates beat the north. like America aiding tiawon.