I guess china might see it as being an embarresment that Taiwan is trying to break away as they consider taiwan part of china and it does not look good on china!

I meant that the PRC did not renew their lease with the United Kingdom and without force regained control of Hong Kong.

It was always going to be that after 99 years the lease deal would expire and Hong Kong would return back to china, though due to 99 years of capitalism Hong Kong is governed differently to the rest of China

Sorry for my previous flaming post---sometime you just got to do that to somebody...

While, This thing is that I never heard anybody, anybody in China arguing to reunite Taiwan immediately just because they want to. Chinese, I think, once made a very very clear statement to keep the current situation and let the people resolve the problem years later because mainland side is too busy for the economy development, in addition, let taiwan to test the democracy route and setup the example for some stubborn communists is not bad at all, cause later China sure will follow what Taiwan has experienced for the democracy.

So, Where is the problem from? Why China changed the mind and has to take action these days?

Let me tell you two reasons here:

1> Some very mean politicians people in Taiwan want to leave their name in the history book, frankly speaking, they think it is supper for them if they can be come a "president" of an official country. They don’t care about war or peace, they don’t care about what is the best future for Taiwan people or both sides, All they care is that whether they can go to UN to speak as president of a country, they are dreaming they can be welcomed like Mandela someday, they can become “Founding Father” of a new country and they can be memorized forever as “Democratic Fighter” in front of “Brutal Dictator China”. Just check cnn.com to see how this guy get re-elected in recent Taiwan “election”---if we still call that “election”. (The guy in while house might learn something from him, J )

2> Never forget about Japan, please. If anybody wants to talk about war or big issues that involved in East Asia, never forget about the factor from Japan. And I need to remind you Japan once took Taiwan for 50 years and invade China, that is most painful period in Chinese 5000 year’s history. What I want to tell everybody here is : The former “president” of Taiwan (Li Teng- Hui) who promote the independence of Taiwan declared himself many times in public that he is in fact a Japanese and he is very proud of that. You know what, he has a very strong tight relationship with right wing people in Japan.

If there is a war really happen, China and USA both are just completely played by somebody who is behind the scence. The current "president" in Taiwan is very mean politician, and the former "president" of taiwan think himself as Japanese. Now it is very clear who really want this war, it is them pushing both China and USA to the edge of the danger. “When crab fight with Pelican, fishman just wait and take both”—That is the logic behind. China has to take action cause they cannot lose the land---No government in this planet dare to lose the land in front of its own people. USA has to take action too---cause they are not smart enough to understand who is really behind this and they only understand that they are the only policeman and authority shall never be challenged. If somebody America die, he will not die from battlefield with his enemy, he will be stabbed from behind by one of his “closest” allies. So…. DEAD END. But the “smart people” in Taiwan and Japan might not understand one final thing: If China is going to be ruined, will they really let Japan and Taiwan survive before they die?

Last word: the ugliest thing in the world is politics, the ugliest people in the world is politician. War is the tool of politician to reach their goal---for their own, not for people.
No question and no exception about that.

It was like this:

The Brits still wanted to control the HongKong, but the Chinese leader Deng told their Iron Lady that if you don't go after 1997 then we Chinese will send troops in to kick you out, after hearing this, the Iron Lady of Britain fell out of the traps of the Great Hall in Beijing after the meeting. It was big news that time

Hmmm. So this is all a Japanese plot...?

Originally Posted by SHERMAN

Hmmm. So this is all a Japanese plot...?

Not really.

I think the grandmother of the ex-president of Taiwan Li was a japanese, and Li speaks good japanese, and his brother serverd in the japanese army during WW2 and died in battle.

Of course the japans wanted a disunified China, it is always of the interest to them.

But hell, times has changed, Taiwan will belong to China again, like it or not

Im all for a unification, when China turns democratic. As long as it isent, I see no reason for the people of Taiwan to want to unify with Main-Land.

It would be too difficult to govern taiwan unless china was democratic as i cant see taiwan wanting to be governed by communists after so long democratically governed! the people of taiwan would likely have problems adjusting, the economy of taiwan might noy adapt! either china will have to take taiwan by force and change the whole structure of taiwans government and possibly lose a lot of investment in china, or they will stay seperate entities!

In a word, China is still a communist country. It may delude people in the world to think that it is becoming 'less' communistic by doing business and getting along with the world. But fundamentally, China is still communist and that fact hasn't changed.

Anytime, China gets enough from the world and she might turn back to what it really is.. communism. Communism hasn't died; it just transforms itself to look like an angel.
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