Originally Posted by Uncle_Sam

The prioritay for the USN, USAF, US Army is Laser defence, which will be operational, and very much in use by 2010, after that US of A should not fear from ICBMs, planes.........

I realise that too. But many experts are worried about the instability of the laser system in war. Our technology is still not advanced enough to employ such laser systems effectively.

Originally Posted by Uncle_Sam

The prioritay for the USN, USAF, US Army is Laser defence, which will be operational, and very much in use by 2010, after that US of A should not fear from ICBMs, planes.........

I realise that too. But many experts are worried about the instability of the laser system in war. Our technology is still not advanced enough to employ such laser systems effectively.

Just FYI: Taiwan is only 200 KM from Mainland.

I keep thinking about this one little detail for a sucessful invasion of taiwan: even if the US Navy wasnt involved with any naval operation at all:

How will Main Land China get all the men and equippment needed to subdue that little island 120 miles from its shore, without taking a whole lot of casualties from the Taiwaneese? When the Nationalists moved onto the island, they didnt incour resistance until after they established themselves on the island: It kind of occours to me that unless the PLA Air Force and PLA Navy really takes away the ability to remove that islands means to resist...this is going to be a very large fish food operation...with the PLA providing the repast.

ahh, i didnt think you were talking about IRBM's. But I think an AEGIS equiped warship, if it had adquate warning, could target and destroy multiple IRBM's, now if the IRBM's were carrying nukes, all it would take was one, If only conventional warheads, it's not worth the cost as teh CEP against a moving ship would make a hit almost impossible

Next time I will post some info of the newest Chinese DDG's.

They do look not bad I think.

This is the Chinese "AEGIS": DDG 170.

DDG 170 and 171 is currently under construction, will go sea trail very soon.

DDG 170:

[quote="FlyingFrog"]Next time I will post some info of the newest Chinese DDG's.

They do look not bad I think.

This is the Chinese "AEGIS": DDG 170.

DDG 170 and 171 is currently under construction, will go sea trail very soon.

FlyingFrog.. the Chinese warships look like they got their construction blueprint from the French Navy. Most of the weapon and radar systems in the Chinese destroyers are a mix of different systems purchased or adopted from different countries. It's not going to work well in warfare situation. Another thing is, even when the Chinese Airforce manufactures its own fighter jets, the engines were either purchased from UK or Russia. The Chinese Airforce seems to have to rely on external sources for the main components of its fighter jets. That's rather disappointing, isn't it?

Originally Posted by Mark Conley

Just FYI: Taiwan is only 200 KM from Mainland.

I keep thinking about this one little detail for a sucessful invasion of taiwan: even if the US Navy wasnt involved with any naval operation at all:

How will Main Land China get all the men and equippment needed to subdue that little island 120 miles from its shore, without taking a whole lot of casualties from the Taiwaneese? When the Nationalists moved onto the island, they didnt incour resistance until after they established themselves on the island: It kind of occours to me that unless the PLA Air Force and PLA Navy really takes away the ability to remove that islands means to resist...this is going to be a very large fish food operation...with the PLA providing the repast.

It's one of the main difficulties in landing troops onshore. Not to say equipment. This Taiwan Strait is like a natural ditch or moat to a castle. What an attacker needs to do to attack Taiwan is the same as how the invader will do to a castle, only on a larger scale. One way is to sacrifice many troops to get into the castle or onto the island. That's by brute force. It's possible if you do not bother about casualties. Another way is by besieging the island like you do to a castle.

It's useless to keep bombing the island without landing troops onto the island. It'll be like WW2 Germany bombing Britain for years but didn't have amphibious landings. It'll be draggy. No results.

Landing onto the Taiwan island is not difficult. Why? Because the coasts are long and the invader can choose to land troops at different points at the same time. The different points can be tens of miles apart and so stretch the Taiwanese coastal defences to the minimum. Once you established a few beachheads, the invader can take his time to transport the heavier equipment. Taiwan must understand that China has a lot of resources like small vessels. Hundreds or thousands can cross the Strait easily when the Taiwanese airbases are first crippled by missiles attacks, making the Taiwanese difficult to strike landing vessels using aircraft.

Secondly, different from D-Day is the use of helicopters to transport troops and equipement quickly and safely with air cover. There was extensive use of helicopters during the Vietnam war. Thousands of Huey helicopters were used that time. The same thing the Chinese forces can do once the coast is quite clear and under the cover of night. D-Day couldn't be at night. No advanced equipment for night operations at that time yet. Not now. Night goggles are so common. You can find them in a toy shop too. Just check your mouse and harddisk of your computer -- Made in China. Even the US army uniform is made by cloth imported from China. Pentagon says it's good fabric. Take a look around your house. Many things are made in China. It's frightening...

Third, the morale of the Taiwanese soldiers. Are they willing to fight? That's crucial in any battle.

I'm old.. so I talk a lot

I think the past proves that people fighting for real freedom have the uptmost morale. Because even if they fail they will die free.

Originally Posted by Big_Z

I think the past proves that people fighting for real freedom have the uptmost morale. Because even if they fail they will die free.

When the Japanese attacked Singapore in WW2, there were 80,000 British, Australian and Indian soldiers guarding the island. Yet General Percival decided to surrender them to the only 30,000 strong Japanese troops across the shore in Johore. It's unbelievable yet true. Probably the general thought it's better for his troops and himself to live as POWs than to die fighting for others. There may be a chance to go home to England... later.

Sometimes even if the soldiers are willing to fight, but the general is not, brave men will become POWs. Like the 80,000 did and suffered through the 3 years and 8 months of life as POWs. Many died as captives.

So it's sometimes just talk that soldiers will die for this or that, or for country. Still, many of them will prefer to live as captives than to die fighting for freedom and then where will they be?

Yea but the difference is the tiawan soldiers have no hope but themselves. There will be no rescue. Those soldiers you mentioned weren't fighting for their own homeland they had a home to return too the soldiers of tiawan wouldn't.