palaweno22
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i read in a news article somewhere that a Chinese patrol in the South China Sea threatened an Indian vessel on its way to Vietnam. yup, China is flexing its military and political muscle and will get way with it.
i read in a news article somewhere that a Chinese patrol in the South China Sea threatened an Indian vessel on its way to Vietnam. yup, China is flexing its military and political muscle and will get way with it.
The Chicoms have been belligerent lately in our neck of the woods(Spratleys). Now, having an aircraft carrier would be used to further increase their influence/threatening stance on the region.When the US bases were here during the 60-80s the chinese dare not approach the Philippine seas. Wish they were here again. I curse our senators that kicked out the bases in the 90s. No foresight what so ever.
Joe
anyway, to add to the topic of aircraft carriers, i think malaysia and thailand also have an aircraft carrier each. its likely more for prestige same as china, except that for china its also definitely building for the future.
Don't forget Brazil also has one.
Since you've mentioned that, Argentina has one too...
This is what I mean exactly, because one has a carrier, the other guy must have one too...
This carrier issue, is a case of what you want, as compared to what you really need...
The question, coming back to this topic, does China really need a carrier...?
Often reminds one of the battleship game of the 1920's and 30's, everyone had to have a symbol of national power and prestige so they invested in their own battleship programs. Even when the world economy crashed nations still focused on launching new vessels of questionable use during the next war they were intended to fight.
One question to all- how long do the Chinese took to develop and built a ballistic missile submarine? Another question- why do they need it?
To project a responsive nuclear deterent that is hard to detect, and very hard to neutralize. It's also mobile and can be sent close to your adversaries coast for a quicker delivery time in case of nuclear war.
Where did China learn this strategic lesson from?
From where else... From watching the United States and Russian Navies play a strategic game of cat and mouse all around China's waters for the past 50 years...
The problem with being a successful world Super power for any empire or country is that you obviously accomplished something militarily and/or economically that just works.
When you do what works, people watch you, when people want to be successful they want to know how to do it and what works best.
Hence why China copies every Russian jet engine to make it over the border, and mimics USN deployment strategy all around her waters. All maybe in the hope that you don't have to be original to win your battles...
That is only one problem with this, Yoss...
When you want to play with big boys, you gotta play by big boys rules...
To project a responsive nuclear deterent that is hard to detect, and very hard to neutralize. It's also mobile and can be sent close to your adversaries coast for a quicker delivery time in case of nuclear war.
Where did China learn this strategic lesson from?
From where else... From watching the United States and Russian Navies play a strategic game of cat and mouse all around China's waters for the past 50 years...
The problem with being a successful world Super power for any empire or country is that you obviously accomplished something militarily and/or economically that just works.
When you do what works, people watch you, when people want to be successful they want to know how to do it and what works best.
Hence why China copies every Russian jet engine to make it over the border, and mimics USN deployment strategy all around her waters. All maybe in the hope that you don't have to be original to win your battles...
I think showing our strength by crushing Iraq in Kuwait was the pivot point. Up to that moment China felt secure with what they had, after seeing Iraq who had a top 10 army fold in three days and the pictures of the highway of death they knew what they had was a joke.
anyway, to add to the topic of aircraft carriers, i think malaysia and thailand also have an aircraft carrier each. its likely more for prestige same as china, except that for china its also definitely building for the future.
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