China WILL rule the world. - Page 7




 
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February 20th, 2012  
Spartan613
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by LeEnfield
China has stolen many of the American weapon secrets, so what ever America has so does China. I think it is a problem that so many people underrated the Chinese rather like every one underrated the Japanese before WW2. As I said before just look at what happened in Korea on the 1950's and then think how much more advanced the the Chinese have become since then.
As Stalin said, "Quantity has a quality all of its own". But the ability to swarm like they did in Korea would, I think, be somewjat negated today.

Unless the Chinks can acheieve aerospace supremacy (doubtful) every massed infantry or tank formation is going to be a target for MOABs, cluster munitions, and anything else that can be launched at them.
February 20th, 2012  
42RM
 
China, in short, is a paper tiger, from which we have little to fear except insofar as we insist on creating an enemy of our own making.
February 20th, 2012  
Trooper1854
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by LeEnfield
China has stolen many of the American weapon secrets, so what ever America has so does China. I think it is a problem that so many people underrated the Chinese rather like every one underrated the Japanese before WW2. As I said before just look at what happened in Korea on the 1950's and then think how much more advanced the the Chinese have become since then.
Does anyone remember when the USA "Accidentaly" bombed the Chinese embassy in the former Yugoslavia in 1999?
It was just after the F-117 Stealth Fighter was shot down.
Apparently the remains of the F-117 were crated up in the embassy waiting to be shipped back.
Don't know if this is true, but its hard to believe a JDAM "missed".
The Chinese have always been good at copying technology, but it was never known to be as good as the originals.
Their versions of the Mig 17 and 19 were just throw away fighters.
When they reached the very limited extent of their airframe life, about 20 hours, they were binned, and a new one replaced it.
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February 21st, 2012  
Big_Z
 
 
China will no doubt steal the proverbial kitchen sink if it isn't bolted down.

The R&D that goes into creating the technology is just as important as the final outcome itself. Technology tends to be tailor made around a certian set of circumstances and objectives. When they reverse engineer this stuff they are taking it completely out of context and trying to shoehorn it into their bleeding edge 1990s russian infrastructure.

A nation of turn keys on rails. What happens when their plan A fails? Chaos I'd bet. No meat on those bones.
February 27th, 2012  
Yossarian
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Big_Z
China will no doubt steal the proverbial kitchen sink if it isn't bolted down.

The R&D that goes into creating the technology is just as important as the final outcome itself. Technology tends to be tailor made around a certian set of circumstances and objectives. When they reverse engineer this stuff they are taking it completely out of context and trying to shoehorn it into their bleeding edge 1990s russian infrastructure.

A nation of turn keys on rails. What happens when their plan A fails? Chaos I'd bet. No meat on those bones.

I see a somewhat negated attention to the fact that concepts and force deplyoment in itself will have to be over hauled if China is to succeed in any majore future military endeavours.

We live in a interesting period of warefare, as demostrated by modern miltaries in these past few short decades.

China releazies that 21st century warefare will be a time where smaller, more supported military structures will prove more viable and effective on the battlefied.

The Chinese are "trying" to do more than just get next years model on military hardware, they are starting to show signs of re organizing their defense structures, and downsize their army in particular for the 21st century.

That's right, downsize.

They aren't blind, seeing the results and success of America's military, with it's large logisitical backing, smaller more mobile forces (than China's), supported by rapid and precise delivery of supporting fire power on the battlefield has got alot of Chinese military leaders attention.
March 3rd, 2012  
Jay
 
 
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Originally Posted by Panzercracker
Lovely gibberish that hides the fact that US of A has nothing even close to that level of discipline, not even close.

Newscast for you, looking pretty while marching like that conveys more than just rehearsals, thats discipline with a major D.

You can buy equipment with money, you can't buy this sort of mad robot like dedication, quite frankly a US soldier looks like an utter p*ssy by comparison.

As for how China performs? They build cities in the time it takes us to buid houses so i imagine a culture like that breeds an impressive army.
personally i think your full of ****, no sane person would compare militant troops just by how they walk, base it on how they serve, and last i checked the only think china had on the u.s. was how many bodys they threw in front of our guns.
March 3rd, 2012  
asma18
 
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Originally Posted by brinktk
No military that has ever passed inspection has never survived combat...and no military that has ever survived combat has passed inspection.

There's a need for spit and polish to preserve good order and discipline...on the other hand, too much emphasis on it means one is spending valuable time looking pretty while marching, instead of training for war. I'd be much more interested to see how they perform in the field.
No nation can rule the world not in the past not in the future.In 1979 china invaded vietnam to teach them a lesson,the Viets taught them a lesson they ran back to China after only two weeks and they were fighting reservists and garrison troops.The front liners were giving the Kymer Ruge a hiding.So let us not get to despondent.
March 4th, 2012  
asma18
 
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Originally Posted by senojekips
Funnily enough, I feel that there is a bloody good chance that he is a lot closer to the truth than we would like to admit, although it need not be necessarily achieved by force.

The Chinese are well on their way already, they are fast becoming the world's financial powerhouse, and while we have taken our eye off the ball by concentrating on the Islamic terrorism, they have made great inroads in many developing countries. Some, like the Congo are unbelievably rich in vital "war minerals", chromium, cobalt and other rare earths, they are also serious contenders for favor in a number of oil producing states.

The reaction in this thread reminds me of the way people wrote off the Japanese threat prior to their arrival in WWII. When they made such stupid remarks as, Asians will never be great troops because their eyes preclude them from being able to shoot accurately, they are too short, and suffer from poor nutrition,... and all manner of other rubbish.

It's attitudes like those being displayed here, thinking that our position is unassailable, that could well be our downfall.
I think you are falling into the trap that the chinks want you in." Oh they are so big, have so much discipline live on nothing, we must run and hide"In 79 they invaded Vietnam and got the arses wiped, 1.2 billion so what? makes them easier to find. Stop running off at the mouth about the super chink he is no better than us. He steals his technology,he copies or pays traitors to give him secrets. He is no super soldier, just a soldier.
March 4th, 2012  
asma18
 
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Originally Posted by A Can of Man
Yeah, my unit couldn't parade to save our lives. We were too busy training for other stuff.
This is where I must disagree, parades promote discipline and discipline wins wars.e.g. In 1980 the SGT/MAJOR of the U.S. Western Division after seeing my old unit wished that his front line troops could do both.We did both parades and field craft equally well and we were the Regimental Parade Unit of the Australian Army. He also liked the idea of the Australian Sergeants Messes & wished his army had the same.
March 4th, 2012  
Clinkerbuilt
 
 
The PRC is about to hit a very serious wall, when their energy requirements outstrip their resources and access thereto.

That said, COD is very useful at the beginning of military training, where it teaches the first lesson in teamwork many recruits have ever had, and accustoms them to obeying orders.

After that? Show me a unit that parades like that in the field, and I'll show you a dead unit. Just because someone wishes their unit looked as good as "Unit X" does on parade, that does not equate to "Unit X" being able to function under fire.

If precision on parade were the determining factor for troops on the battlefield, Argentina would be a superpower.
 


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