China Increases Military Spending by 14.7%

Rabs said:
If rebuilding invovles invadeing free nations (Taiwan) then were going to do a lot more than laugh.

who said rebuild involves invading Taiwan?

reuniting Taiwan is part of rebuilding because Taiwan was taken away when China was weak and falling apart

however, using war to reunit Taiwan is neither side's wish, because we are all Chinese, why kill brothers and sisters?

i guess it is too hard for americans (a mixed culture with little histoy and sense of identity) to understand the emotional tie between Chinese people in different parts of the world

I guess you also ignore the fact that millions of Chinese from Taiwan are currently working and studying in China...the economic ties are there, culture ties are there, we will just have to wait for the political tie someday (eventual unificatoin is inevitable, mostly likely due to the change of mainland China to democracy sometime in this century)
 
i guess it is too hard for americans (a mixed culture with little histoy and sense of identity) to understand the emotional tie between Chinese people in different parts of the world

I think its safe to say that the United States has accomplished as much as China has in its entire history.
 
The cold war ended with the Soviet Union. But not wityh communism. I was born in a communist state. CUBA. I lived there and I have seen the "wonders" of the communist state.

The PRC is a communist nation. Simple.
 
Rabs said:
I think its safe to say that the United States has accomplished as much as China has in its entire history.

ya..4000 years vs 200 years

go take your history lesson before you talk, kid
 
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5.56X45mm said:
The cold war ended with the Soviet Union. But not wityh communism. I was born in a communist state. CUBA. I lived there and I have seen the "wonders" of the communist state.

The PRC is a communist nation. Simple.

what is a communist state?

1. it is state-owned economy
2. workers' regime
3. economic equaliy of general population (all poor i guess)

is China like that?
China is more capitalistic and unequal than U.S,

so ,be sensible
I think China is more of a totalitirian capitalistic state that is evolving towards a democracy
 
ya..4000 years vs 200 years

go take your history lesson before you talk, kid

So what, I said accomplishments not time.
I realize China has been around a lot longer than America and theyve done some fairly impressive things.


For example

Chinese wall - Panama Canal

Compass - Micro-processor

Gun powder - Atomic weapons

Then if you want to get Americans ancestrey (europe) invovled then its defintely slanted towards the west in the area of accomplishments.

And do we really have to add in the "kid" type crap, jackass.
 
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that is why I tell you to learn the history lesson before posting anything..

otherwise, post something that is logical, sensible and on-topic if possible
 
Rabs said:
dam right.
well if you say so, congratulation, usa is on its way to become just another mexico:evil:

our value is different from yours, we are confucious society which put more emphasis on family ties, connection. so it maybe reasonable for someone who come from a individualist society to say such thing. I wonder what american school is all about?
 
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5.56X45mm said:
The cold war ended with the Soviet Union. But not wityh communism. I was born in a communist state. CUBA. I lived there and I have seen the "wonders" of the communist state.

The PRC is a communist nation. Simple.

It may sound little bit too harsh to compare us to c*ba:jump: , well i'd rather not to elaborate as to offend anyone, , seeing is believing,
 
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Well, Acommunist state like China is good, and acommunist state like Cuba is bad. There are diffrent type of Communist governments! Like China, it is taking care of her citizens. She believes in People power, therefore the people are given jobs and all! Look At Cuba, thew extreme Communism, it is not very good.
 
There is no such thing as a good communist state.

Yup, sorry the truth hurts. Untill you and the rest of your people overthrow the oppressive communist regime. I will have no respect for that government. Nor will I talorate any action that your nation's government takes toward the Free People of the world and of the Republic of China. Taiwan is a free nation and is under history's view, the still legal government of Main Land China. It is a Government in Exile in my opinion.

Also, when the PRC gives Tibet their independence back, than maybe I will consider even recognizing it as a somewhat reformed socialist government.

Communist China supported the North Korean Army in the 1950s, killed thousands of American Servicemen lives, invaded Tibet, and supported numorous communist regimes that killed million of innocent people. And untill your government allows free speech, the right to property ownership and business, stops using it's secert police to watch evey action of the Chinese people, stop running "re-education camps" gulags, allows freedom of religon, stops targeting those that think differently, and stops talking about destroying the Capitalistic West. Then maybe I'll shut my mouth.

But until then Communist China is a threat to the people of the free world.

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Also, when Communist China stops forcing families to only have one child, stops the forced abortions in Mainland China and Tibet. And also stops the belief that women are worthless. There are millions of unwanted female childern in Communist China because of the fact that the government makes males look more important than females.

And from your info ACHINESE you're a woman.
 
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could you at least be little more creative, do not always come up with same thing over and over again and again that has already been brought up million times by the kinds like you. as for the one child policy, if you want have the world's biggest population, well, we can share some with you, how about 500 million only if you can feed them.

you know nobody like to talk to your kind(ultra nationalist who has no thought of your own).
 
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5.56X45mm said:
There is no such thing as a good communist state.

Yup, sorry the truth hurts. Untill you and the rest of your people overthrow the oppressive communist regime. I will have no respect for that government. Nor will I talorate any action that your nation's government takes toward the Free People of the world and of the Republic of China. Taiwan is a free nation and is under history's view, the still legal government of Main Land China. It is a Government in Exile in my opinion.

Also, when the PRC gives Tibet their independence back, than maybe I will consider even recognizing it as a somewhat reformed socialist government.

Communist China supported the North Korean Army in the 1950s, killed thousands of American Servicemen lives, invaded Tibet, and supported numorous communist regimes that killed million of innocent people. And untill your government allows free speech, the right to property ownership and business, stops using it's secert police to watch evey action of the Chinese people, stop running "re-education camps" gulags, allows freedom of religon, stops targeting those that think differently, and stops talking about destroying the Capitalistic West. Then maybe I'll shut my mouth.

But until then Communist China is a threat to the people of the free world.

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Also, when Communist China stops forcing families to only have one child, stops the forced abortions in Mainland China and Tibet. And also stops the belief that women are worthless. There are millions of unwanted female childern in Communist China because of the fact that the government makes males look more important than females.

And from your info ACHINESE you're a woman.

well...Republic of China and PRC are all China in my opinion, it is just a matter of time for reunification (government in exile if you want to call it, still China, no such thing as independent taiwan or whatever other crap)

talk about tibet, China will give back tibet IF U.S can give back all its land to first nations, (consider that is a bargain, because historically Tibet has pretty much under the control of China, while U.S just came in and kill out everyone)

China is improving dramatically and it has transformed itself from a closed nation to a fair open country with a free market and still keep transform itself, if you cannot see that, that is you being extreme (same with terrorists)

talk about one-child policy, it is a sad thing (my mom always tells me that she wanted two children) but I believe even a democratic government will take similiar measures to cope with population growth,, because afterall, this much land can only feed this much people (even Pat Robertson says CHinese do what they have to do on this thing)

your extreme view of so called "freedom" and bla bla is very naive, as no nation has unlimited and unrestircted freedom, unless you achieve that state, dont mock at others
 
Yeah, China is reforming slowly, We cannot always look at the bad parts only. We must always look at other views! I believe that Taiwan will and must go back to China one fine day, by hook or by crook! We cannot deny the fact that the PLA helped the North Koreans to defend the Commusnist State. I believe the USA will do they same if Britain or some other allied country is attacked!
 
well. if communist is so bad, how can chinese communist overthrow a regime that is supported by usa? and why can poor chinese army defeat usa in the korea war? and while the europe communist regime collapse, why chinese communist regime is still survive? and how can china make a gdp growth around 10% why? dont think that is just because chinese government is brutal. thing cannot be that simple.
things cannot be just be good or bad, there is more area between white and black
i am not saying china communist is good. but just try to be object. dont let your feeling control your words.
 
well. if communist is so bad, how can chinese communist overthrow a regime that is supported by usa? and why can poor chinese army defeat usa in the korea war?

Millions of men and a US un-willing to win at all cost help.

FYI the tide was completely turned and the Chinese were being pushed back at a rather rapid pace at the end of the war.
 
Rabs said:
Millions of men and a US un-willing to win at all cost help.

FYI the tide was completely turned and the Chinese were being pushed back at a rather rapid pace at the end of the war.

1. Nationalists failed to kick out Japanese invaders and build a crediable government in China in 1940s. That was one of the major causes that led to the Communist's taking over of power. U.S always wanted China to be democratic and to become an ally back then (Chinese people are still grateful of U.S' contribution to the defeat of Japan), however, Americans bet on the wrong guy, JIang Jieshi, the nationalist leader, was very incompetent and corrupt.

2. No one won the Korean war, nobody achieved its aim, China didn't want to go into that war (Stalin backed Kim to invade South) and only participated when China feared losing an important buffer zone against U.S.
 
http://www.washingtontimes.com/national/20060316-114755-3306r.htm



The Pentagon is moving strategic bombers to Guam and aircraft carriers and submarines to the Pacific as part of a new "hedge" strategy aimed at preparing for conflict with China, Pentagon officials said yesterday.
Peter Rodman, assistant defense secretary for international security affairs, told a congressional commission that the response to the emerging military threat from China is part of the White House national security strategy made public yesterday.
Although U.S. relations with China are good, "both sides understand very well that there is a potential for a conflict, particularly in the Taiwan Strait," Mr. Rodman said during a hearing of the U.S.-China Economic and Security Review Commission.
China's arms buildup in recent years altered the U.S. "strategic calculus" for defending Taiwan from a mainland attack and shows that "a prudent hedging policy is essential," Mr. Rodman said.
The placement of about 700 Chinese missiles opposite Taiwan has changed the status quo between the non-communist island and the communist mainland, he said.
The Pentagon policy calls for watching China's military and "being ready to deal with it, if the worst case should happen," Mr. Rodman said.
James Thomas, deputy assistant defense secretary for plans, said key elements of the "hedging" policy are aimed at nations with uncertain futures, including China and Russia.
Cooperation is preferred, but the Pentagon must prepare "for the possibility that others could choose a more hostile path," Mr. Thomas said.
"In [the China] part of the hedging strategy, we're looking at the deployments of bomber elements to Guam on a more routine basis," he said. "We're also looking at making adjustments in our naval posture globally, shifting to six carrier battle groups in the Pacific region, given the shift in global transport and trade, as well as over the next several years shifting approximately 60 percent of our attack submarine fleet to the Pacific."
The public term for the strategy is "hedge," but in internal Pentagon discussions the term is "effective preparations to swiftly defeat Chinese aggression," one defense official said.
The comments about a conflict contrast with statements by Pentagon officials that have sought to minimize the emerging threat from China.
The plan calls for frequent rotations of B-2 strategic bombers to Guam, part of what the Air Force calls its global strike mission to reach crisis areas quickly. Special hangars and other deployment and maintenance facilities are being built on Guam, a U.S. territory about 1,800 miles from the Chinese coast.
Three attack submarines are based in Guam, and arms storage there includes long-range air-launched cruise missiles and Joint Direct Attack Munitions.
Adm. William J. Fallon, commander of the Pacific Command, has visited Guam and told reporters that the island will become a pivot point for U.S. forces in the Pacific because of the relatively short distances to the Taiwan Strait, South Korea and Southeast Asia.
Yesterday, Mr. Thomas said the Pentagon is strengthening alliances in Asia as part of the strategy.

Bold added for emphasis.

especially the 6 CSFs maybe the pentagon is starting to take china seriously.
 
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