Can S.Korea handle N.Korea alone? - Page 12




 
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Boots
 
October 3rd, 2004  
Shadowalker
 
 
Why would there be many pro-NK citizens, they live in a rich, prosperous country where there lives are not directly controoled by the state!
SK has a population of 48.9 million, NK has a population of 22.2 million.
If NK puts 50% of its army in seoul it would only take airstrikes/missile attacks to take out 1/2 an army. and there leaving pyongyang open to attack from the rear!
October 4th, 2004  
A Can of Man
 
 
Flying Frog, I have no idea where you read all that propaganda but it's a bunch of rubbish.
North Korea hasn't been self sufficient, ever. It relied on goods traded with the USSR and China in order to keep its economy afloat. Since the fall of the USSR, North Korea's situation went SOUTH big time. The flood really screwed things up. Before that they were doing alright, but they never really improved. They always pretended they were self sufficient but that is far from the reality. Truth is there are VERY few countries in the world (and may I say, none actually) which are truly self sufficient. This includes both the US and China. By the way, didn't you say China sends food to North Korea? I mean like... you mean for free right? Now why would a self sufficient country need to take in any food?
There are those psychos who want the Korean peninsular to be united under North Korea's flag, but people who are THIS extreme are few and far between. There simply won't be enough of these to make any difference. Anti-American does not mean pro-North Korea.
I guess a question would be, how quickly can North Korea take Seoul?
Special Forces by Air? It's going to be shot down like crazy because South Korea will have air superiority from the minute the war starts. Not to mention the SAM networks and other AA units. Bust through the lines? That's going to take a long time, if it works at all because the NK Commandos will have to do it with the artillery being the only support. Their Arty may not last very long, and whatever armor manages to make it to their aid will be outmatched by what South Korea can muster against it. Also they'll be blown up from air strikes.
So the only reasonable method of getting enough SF into Seoul would be on FOOT. And walking down from the border to the city unopposed itself would take ages. Of course if you have air strikes, artillery strikes and infantry in your way, it'll be much harder.
Seaborne infiltration? You can only take in so many with submarines and if you try to send anything over by ships, then South Korea's ships will blow them up. Or Air strikes!!
Not to mention for armor doing an invasion, the invasion paths are very limited. Because of rough terrain and rice paddies that will stick your tanks, the tanks will have to stick to the road, rendering them very vulnerable to all kinds of attacks.
October 4th, 2004  
Big_Z
 
 
I think NK will starve to death before the war ever starts.
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Boots
October 4th, 2004  
A Can of Man
 
 
It's starving now and who knows what will happen.
October 4th, 2004  
Damien435
 
 
The North Korean starvation started in 1991.
October 4th, 2004  
03USMC
 
 
13th. Bear with Frog. He buy's the party line; hook line and sinker. He's never been to the ROK. Never met ROK Marine's, Tigers or White Horse. He knows no one with the commitment to their country that they have.
October 4th, 2004  
FlyingFrog
 
OK, let me make my points clear:

1. SK is surely superior on all fronts than NK

2. SK would not invade NK, since SK does not have the WILL to war.

3. NK would like to invade SK and unite Korea since they have the WILL.

4. NK can capture Seoul despite huge losses on troops.

I know you want to argue about point 4, but be realistic, NK does have to ablility to take Seoul.

5. NK has nukes, that kicks everything SK has in house.

Btw. I said China sends foods to NK in disaster years not EVERY month normal years.
October 4th, 2004  
Big_Z
 
 
You put way too much hype on will. For some reason I dont think SK is gona roll over and submit just because NK has the will to attack. It would be great if war was that simple but it isnt.
October 4th, 2004  
Damien435
 
 
To FlyingFrog:

Do you think only commies have the will to fight?

We are not doubting that NK can take Seoul, they just can't hold it.

South Korea's nuclear programs back in the 70's were at the same state of developement that North Korea's is now. SK says they stopped there, but who knows.

North Korea may have nukes, but how are the going to get them to their targets? Any missiles they have could be shot down by SK, any truck they loaded it onto would likely be shot up, and any boat they loaded it onto would likely be stopped.

Can you prove that NK has nukes? NO! They say they have nukes, but you guys have a bad track record right now and no credibility. They have not tested a nuke, they have not detonated one, they do not have any.

If North Korea has to resort to using Nukes they will have essentially conceded defeat. North Korea can not defeat South Korea in their current state. South Korea has a better chance of defeating the north but that is still unrealistic.

BTW: Your biasness was made obvious the moment you made this topic. "Can South Korea handle North Korea?" A better topic title would have been "Who has the upper hand on the Korean Penninsula?"
October 4th, 2004  
godofthunder9010
 
 
SK "hasn't the WILL to war" is because they are peaceful where the North is not. They want reunification under peaceful terms there the North does not. They have a powerful economy where the North does not. A nuclear strike on SK would lead to a US counter-strike, especially if it involved some Americans getting killed.

If you admit that SK is superior, how would they manage to take Seoul?

Why does China support them?? They're like an insane rabid dog who can only knows attack, kill and destroy. SK is pushing for peaceful reunification. NK, for some reason, is pushing a nuclear agenda that has further damaged hopes of peaceful reunification. Obviously, they've become a buffer zone between China and what it views at "Western power", but currently they are more of a liability that anything. Truth of the matter is, China could do a lot to get NK to behave themselves and hasn't.