Can North Korea Engage the US in Total War? - Page 2




 
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February 6th, 2007  
Big_Z
 
 
NK does not have the military to challenge us... A conventional war between the 2 would be a very quick success for the USA. I couldnt even finish reading that garbage.
February 6th, 2007  
Damien435
 
 
I seem to remember hearing the same thing back in 2002/2003 about Iraq. In a conventional battle, North Korea doesn't stand a chance, however they will not be lacking when it comes to insurgent attacks after our initial invasion/victory, which will take longer than Iraq simply because of the nature of the terrain there. 1 in 4 North Koreans has some sort of affiliation to either the Army or some other Paramilitary force, thanks to the indoctrination tactics of the North Korean government over the last 50 years the entire population is utterly convinced of the evil nature of the Japanese, South Koreans, Americans and even the Chinese, their only ally. We'd be looking at a long occupation in a nation where the locals are practically bred to hate anything not North Korean, I say we bomb any military, defend against any attacks North Korea throw at Japan or South Korea, and call it good enough, not like we can make the population suffer any more than they already are.
February 7th, 2007  
Mokhaberat
 
 

Topic: Extrem concern


Quote:
Originally Posted by Big_Z
NK does not have the military to challenge us... A conventional war between the 2 would be a very quick success for the USA. I couldnt even finish reading that garbage.
Yes I Understand it very well, But theirs allways a but in A time of War, and to Challenge the United States of America in a Military Confrontation raises "extrem concerns over global security" in that part of the world. And we all know that NK has a Nuke,
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February 7th, 2007  
Mokhaberat
 
 

Topic: Info


Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien435
I seem to remember hearing the same thing back in 2002/2003 about Iraq. In a conventional battle, North Korea doesn't stand a chance, however they will not be lacking when it comes to insurgent attacks after our initial invasion/victory, which will take longer than Iraq simply because of the nature of the terrain there. 1 in 4 North Koreans has some sort of affiliation to either the Army or some other Paramilitary force, thanks to the indoctrination tactics of the North Korean government over the last 50 years the entire population is utterly convinced of the evil nature of the Japanese, South Koreans, Americans and even the Chinese, their only ally. We'd be looking at a long occupation in a nation where the locals are practically bred to hate anything not North Korean, I say we bomb any military, defend against any attacks North Korea throw at Japan or South Korea, and call it good enough, not like we can make the population suffer any more than they already are.
If you have any info about the North Korean's Military..... Military Power Send it or post it, it will help
February 12th, 2007  
sandy
 
North korean military don't have enough resource for total war against america.
So,if they get aid from UN,they will continue to develop NBC and kim will survive.
Promiss?Gimme a break.
You think them save promiss?
Anyway,They d,n't have food,oil,ammo, and many things that needed for maintain machines and human.
NK worry about revolt against kim dynasty by their generals.
If kim dynasty was collapsed,china will occupy north korea to support rebellious force(That may be better than current situation ・・・・)
From my view,I want John Bolton to be UN ambassador again.
February 13th, 2007  
mmarsh
 
 
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Originally Posted by Missileer
The difference in a war between NK and the US is that three or four missiles may launch from NK but a small strike from the US could be anywhere from 50 to 300 warheads. And I don't mean the kind that may or may not work.
I think the last NK missile test proved that having the bomb and being able to deliver it to its target are two different problems altogether. And thats assuming that they have a working bomb, because the last nuclear test was less than convincing.

In a hypothetical war I think the North Koreans would stream through SK (capturing Souel) to about the halfway point (my best guess). Then their supplies would run out and massive US-UN (possibly NATO) reinforcements would be arriving in force. They would then be routed except for a handful of hardcore units loyal to Kim Jong Il that would make a stand for as long as they could.
February 13th, 2007  
Damien435
 
 
I think the biggest loser will be South Korea in any event, not hard in my mind to envision groups of NK gunmen going through Seoul killing everyone, or as many people as they can find. Of course today South Korea holds the advantage in technology, weaponry and manpower unlike 1950 when North Korea held so many advantages.
February 13th, 2007  
Gator
 
 
In my opinion the United States of America underestimated the resolve of the North Vietnamese and the Vietnamese communists during the Vietnam War.
Also in my opinion the United States of America underestimated the resolve of the Taliban and al-Qaeda in Afghanistan, along with the Iraqi insurgents in Iraq.

Constant underestimating of potential and actively engaged enemies is not a good thing, in my own opinion.
February 17th, 2007  
sandy
 
I can say one thing.
If american attacked DPARK,Chin would help DPARK under Sino-DPARK mutual defense treaty to save their glacis.
But・・・・judging from chinese and north korean weapons are inferior than US and south korean's and moral of their troops are totally very low・・・・・
They often say "Americans are rotten by capitalism and our troops have solid will to build great communism state and world revolution!"
But from my view They don't think training of troops important and american soldiers are world most trained.
So the most plobrem is "Will sino-DPRK union use tactical nuke in korea?"
February 17th, 2007  
Gator
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by sandy
I can say one thing.
If american attacked DPARK,Chin would help DPARK under Sino-DPARK mutual defense treaty to save their glacis.
But・・・・judging from chinese and north korean weapons are inferior than US and south korean's and moral of their troops are totally very low・・・・・
They often say "Americans are rotten by capitalism and our troops have solid will to build great communism state and world revolution!"
But from my view They don't think training of troops important and american soldiers are world most trained.
So the most plobrem is "Will sino-DPRK union use tactical nuke in korea?"
As China proved the last time the US was on the dance card in Korea its not so much the equipment, but rather more about the number of people one brings to the party.

What makes you think the US can beat China and North Korea this time without the US going Nuclear first?

Weapons? The US had state of the art Weapons during the Korean War and we had to settle for a tie. The US would in my opinion need to deliver the knockout punch with the initial assault if China were in the game on the side of North Korea.

China has a hell of a lot of people to put into the fight.....

Military manpower
Military age18 years of age
Voluntary ages 18-49 to join
Availability males ages of 18-49: 342,956,265 female age 18-49: 324,701,244 (2005 est.)
Fit for military service males age 18-49: 281,240,272 female age 18-49: 269,025,517 (2005 est.)
Active troops 2,250,000 (Ranked 1st)
Total troops 7,024,000 (Ranked 3rd)
Paramilitary force 1,500,000
Reaching military age annually males: 13,186,433 females : 12,298,149 (2005 est.)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_Liberation_Army


North Korea has quite a few Troops as well......

Military manpower
Military age (males)17 years of age (2004)
Availability (males)17-49: 5,851,801 (2005 est.)
Fit for military service (males)17-49: 4,810,831 (2005 est.)
Reaching military age annually (males)194,605 (2005 est.)
Active troops 1,102,600 (Ranked 5th)
Total troops 5,995,000 (Ranked 4th)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_of_North_Korea


Morale? If China and North Korea were counter-attacking South Korea, the morale of US Forces (and South Koreans both Military and Civilian) would be, in my opinion, pretty low.... seing how the US is already fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan, and seeing how the North Koreans don't really have a lot to look forward to right now, so, attacking South Korea with China backing them up may just be a boost to their morale.

One of the disadvantages China has right now is Military Transport to the Battlefield, but seeing how North Korea borders China that disadvantage becomes less of an issue, while the United States would have to Transport troops and equipment from other Areas of Operation into the fight, while a lot of our Military Equipment has been, and is being used in Iraq and Afghanistan.
 


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