Looking at Ted's profile. Seems he is one of the civilian intellectually elite college professors. (no military service).
Seems to want to bash the military. Or is it just the US military?
We all enjoy free speech in western countries, I just wonder who Ted thinks gave him that right?
Voltaire was said,"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."
Voltaire (1694 - 1778), (Attributed); originated in "The Friends of Voltaire", 1906
Voltaire talked about defending your right to free speech, but it was the military you are attacking who actually gave it to you.
“It is the ability to take a joke, not make one, that proves you have a sense of humor.”
Cheers
Kristina :cheers:
True, but since he posted this in the political section and not the joke section it was not intended as a joke, was it?
And as a Vietnam veteran, who attended college after I got back. The "baby killer" joke, is a little tired and been done. Just SSDD, coming from the same clueless people.
Old jokes are like fish, they begin to smell with age. And bad jokes smell from the beginning.
It's not so much Vietnam per se, but the thing that makes those who think, angry, is that our respective governments learnt nothing from the experience. They take willing young men, convince them that they are going to save western democracy from the Bogey man, and when they have finished with them, they are consigned to the rubbish heap of history.Point taken; I’m aware that service in Vietnam, still is a very sensitive subject for most veterans.
There is no such thing as a "bad" joke, after all that is what a joke is,... something nasty, that happens to someone else[/quote]Well; the world is full of bad jokes. Believe me; the things I have to listen to when people finds out that I’m in the service and have been in Afghanistan. But I just forgive and forget!
That hasn't really stopped chain e-mails from being posted in the Political Threads in the past.True, but since he posted this in the political section and not the joke section it was not intended as a joke, was it?
Whatever, I made an observation.That hasn't really stopped chain e-mails from being posted in the Political Threads in the past.
Imagine that, me too.Whatever, I made an observation.
Looking at Ted's profile. Seems he is one of the civilian intellectually elite college professors. (no military service).
Seems to want to bash the military. Or is it just the US military?
We all enjoy free speech in western countries, I just wonder who Ted thinks gave him that right?
Voltaire was said,"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."
Voltaire (1694 - 1778), (Attributed); originated in "The Friends of Voltaire", 1906
Voltaire talked about defending your right to free speech, but it was the military you are attacking who actually gave it to you.
You may want to check out the other thread and get all of the evidence. They weren't "just a group of civvies," they were in fact, armed and given the circumstances, the pilots were cleared of wrong doing through an investigation. The military sees it as a good shoot.And to end on a critical note: why can't the military just admit that they mess up sometimes with great consequences for the people involved? Just a simple "we tore a group of civvies apart and we are sorry... we messed up!" And when you play with other lifes that isn't a strange question to ask for is it? Don't attack me for asking that very question or does being critical not exist in your democracy?
You may want to check out the other thread and get all of the evidence. They weren't "just a group of civvies," they were in fact, armed and given the circumstances, the pilots were cleared of wrong doing through an investigation. The military sees it as a good shoot.
By suggesting that the military kill children as in your picture? Why not teach them the causes and failures of the various political systems and about religious intolerance?Nah... I didn't want to bash the military, not even the US military. And I am no college professors either, just a school teacher trying to put some sense into kids.
Militaries going into places on a whim? I don't think so, they were ordered to go. This was done because the government leaders could or would not find a better solution.But the point I did try to make is that I can't believe that we (or perhaps I should say "the military") keep going into places on a whim. Our chosen government think up some quick and easy plan to bring peace & democracy to some godforsaken part of the world. We all know that politicians think short term and use whom ever they need to get their plan done....
And it has been done a thousand times before! Young and able kids get send away on the pretense of "doing the right thing" but who's right thing are they doing? Certainly not those of the people who got shot up in this video? And they belonged to the group that were to receive democracy. I understand the concept of sacrifice and collateral damage, but try to explain that to the orphans and widows...
What is the alternative? Weren't all great changes and revolutions started by the indigenous people?
I just missed what you thought was funny about the possibility of children dying in your first post.What option remains? Just a shrug of the shoulders and a wry laugh... Perhaps a funny pic of a sad & tragic event, because there is nothing left to do. Politicians won't change and young kids keep getting send away.
And to end on a critical note: why can't the military just admit that they mess up sometimes with great consequences for the people involved? Just a simple "we tore a group of civvies apart and we are sorry... we messed up!" And when you play with other lifes that isn't a strange question to ask for is it?
Don't attack me for asking that very question or does being critical not exist in your democracy?
And who did the investigation? I can predict all outcomes done by an institute that will not admit errors. And because the military see this as a valid shooting, that does not make it so.
I do however admit that it is easy for me to say this. Hence my point of not going there in the first place. You want freedom, you fight for it. This has been the way for millenia...
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