Bill Clinton to Israel: Iran No Threat

Ted said:
I guess so. You do know the events aren't repetitive right?
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This is about the most idiotic statement that you have made so far.

Have you heard the term, "History Repeats Itself".

People have been saying this for a reason you know.

So the development of an islamic nation or a country turning islamic, with 2000 years of other culture underneath, will not give the same result.
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Most if not all the Islamic coutnries that you see now Egypt, Turkey, Morroc, had at least the same amount of history behind them before they were converted to Islam.

History isn't going to mean anything when someone new takes over with different Ideas.

If you want proof all you have to do is look at Muslim enclaves in Europe right now, and see how they want to govern themselves under Shaira law, they couldn't care less about European History

And beside being naive I'm also a pragmatic. At this moment I'm a non-practising Christian and then I'll become a non-practising Muslim.... problem solved!
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What about those who don't want to be Muslims, non-practicing or otherwise.

Besides Muslims do not take kindly to Apostates, those who converted from Islam, or those Muslims who do not practice it.

You have the same mentality of the Vichy govermant in France during the Nazi occupation.

Its so ironic that are so willing to tolerate something that will bring about intolerance.

(p.s. I have an islamic girlfriend and the future doesn't look so bad to me)
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For you, no.

Like I said, what about those who don't want to convert?

What about the Jews in Europe?

What about those who want to be part of another religion?

What about those who simply don't want any religion?

What about gay people?

What about women who do not want to wear a headscarf?

What about those Muslims who want to convert to another religion?

I hope you sleep well in your old age knowing the intolerance that will grow around you, and that you did nothing to stop it, but encouraged it.
 
What about those who want to be part of another religion?

What about those who simply don't want any religion?

What about gay people?

What about women who do not want to wear a headscarf?

What about those Muslims who want to convert to another religion?
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Possible death sentence will be handed to these type of people in islamic countries
 
Maybe you are right Gladius:


Like I said, what about those who don't want to convert?

What about the Jews in Europe?

What about those who want to be part of another religion?

What about those who simply don't want any religion?

What about gay people?
Most of those named above haven't done to hot under national socialism or in Russia before for and after the revolution.... so maybe history does repeat itself regardless of prior developments. But why worry then, because then things are bound to happen anyway; call it fate. And after the Islamics are done with them, who'll be next to repeat history.
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Ted the Red! its because of people like you that hitler came to power. appasement, pacifism. You really dont care if your nation gets taken over. And btw your girlfriend will probally be executed for dateing a non-muslim.
 
Perhaps I shouldn't be, but I am surprised by Bill Clinton's message not to take the new Iranian President's threats and insults against Israel seriously, especially since, as political animals, the Clintons depend greatly on support from New York and Hollywood, where I would have thought Clinton's message would not be appreciated
 
Ted said:
Ted the Red.... I like the sound of that..... Let's see how that affects my thinking!
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Well you should take it as a compliment: Red was the color of socialists long before the communists stole that.
 
LOL IG, I do! I hope I can come even a tiny bit in the neighbourhood of some of the great thinkers who conveyed their thoughts. But I figure I'll have a long way to go....... So, let's get cracking!
 
Lol Missileer, as long as you were a Viking you recieved social benefits and Old Age Pension. However, if you were on the recieving end of their axe or swords, different rules applied.....
 
Ted said:
Maybe you are right Gladius:


Like I said, what about those who don't want to convert?

What about the Jews in Europe?

What about those who want to be part of another religion?

What about those who simply don't want any religion?

What about gay people?
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Most of those named above haven't done to hot under national socialism or in Russia before for and after the revolution.... so maybe history does repeat itself regardless of prior developments. But why worry then, because then things are bound to happen anyway; call it fate. And after the Islamics are done with them, who'll be next to repeat history.
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They are only bound to happen if people let it happen.

Why is it necesary to go like sheep to the slaughter. People could have stopped Hilter early on, yet no one really had the guts to do it, maybe because it would offend someone. Well they paid the price for their political correctness. By that same assumption when Hilter took over Europe were we supposed to says well its just fate and leave it be? I don't think so.

The point is, at this stage, something can still be done. Within a decade or so Europe will be past the point of reversabilty, no matter what is done.

So if enough people in Europe have the courage to act, then this course may be reversed. The important part is that they need to try because it is still possible to reverse to course. The people who just sit there and do nothing because they are afraid someone will get offended, then they are just as guilty as those that will perpetrate this future intolerance. "For evil to suceed, all that it takes is for good men to do nothing", thats a quote that need to be repeated often because it happens when people who know whats right don't take action.

I think you already know the future consequences if Europe is fully Islamized. The point is what are you willing to do about it. If you are just going to sit there and let it happen when you know the danger of this, then thats up to you. All I can do is throw you back a quote you once used in this forum;

"What we do in life echoes in eternity."
 
Ah, finally I'm being quoted! But let's sjip the pleasantries....

So if enough people in Europe have the courage to act, then this course may be reversed. The important part is that they need to try because it is still possible to reverse to course.
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Give my one course of action we Europeans should take? Remember it took the US their sweet time to get involved, they weren't too eager to jump the gun. But I'm getting of track.

Name me a course of action where the guilty get punished the innocent go free and inactive let things just slip by. If you can get me an answer I'll make sure my PM gets it!
 
Ted said:
Give my one course of action we Europeans should take?
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Get really tough on immigration for starters. That and a few more I already posted somewhere on this board before.

Remember it took the US their sweet time to get involved, they weren't too eager to jump the gun. But I'm getting of track.
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If you are talking about WW2 they were involved, they sent the flying tigers to fight the Japanese in China. Besides when it came to Europe the direct threat was not to the US, so they could afford to take their time, there is little they could have done even if they wanted to, given the European attitude. When it came to that, the US input mattered little.

Name me a course of action where the guilty get punished the innocent go free and inactive let things just slip by. If you can get me an answer I'll make sure my PM gets it!
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First course of action, come back down to reality.

I think you are suggesting we wave a magic wand and everything will work out just right, that may not happen. Whatever course of action not everyone will like it. Some toes are going to get stepped on, its not going to be pleasant, but thats what needs to be done.

Second realize that the politically correct way of thinking isn't always the prudent way to go. If Europe can get rid of this then they have taken the first step to doing something about this.

Europe seriously needs to realize where this misguided path of left wing politcally correct thinking is taking them. This is the first step in doing something.
 
Our minister for immigration is catching a lot of flak, because Holland has now one of the harshest policies in Europe. I'm not really fond of what "we" turned into, because we were widely know for our hospitality and tolerance. Anyway there is a climate in Holland where I am a minorty, and I don't like it none....
 
I can understand what your saying.

Unfortunately policies have to get tough before they can be hospitable and tolerant again. Once this is taken care of then they can have hospitality and tolerance once more.

Once the problem is settled ---or how long, or if it gets settled--- tolerance needs to be tempered with sensibility to strike a balance between the two.
 
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