Basque separatist group ETA declares ceasefire




 
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March 23rd, 2006  
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MADRID/SAN SEBASTIAN, Spain (Reuters) - Basque separatist group ETA declared a permanent ceasefire after almost four decades of attacks in Spain, potentially ending one of Western Europe's bloodiest guerrilla campaigns.



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March 23rd, 2006  
Corocotta
 
 
Hi, as a spanish citizen I would like to make a few clarifications:

- ETA is a terrorist group, not a separatist group. In Spain we have many separatist political parties (almost in every province) but only ETA kills (almost one thousand people until today)

- It ´s not a guerrilla. This term implies a war betewen two parts and this does not exist. ETA kills civilians. The police does not kill them.
March 23rd, 2006  
phoenix80
 
 
I am hearing that Spaniards are looking at this peace agreement very suspiciously
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March 23rd, 2006  
mmarsh
 
 
France has problems with ETA as well. (The Basque area is the Mountains literally on the border between France and Spain. Hence ETA is a nuisance in both countries). As Coracutta stated, despite their bravado as 'Freedom Fighters' make no mistake, like the IRA they are a violent terrorist group.
Although they are most active in Spain, they have been involoved in assasinations in France as well. That routinely assasinate anyone they see as a threat, they deserve no pity.

I think the reason ETA is asking for peace is because of Madrid. Although it wasnt involved in the Madrid bombings, the Spainish people, (and to a smaller degree the French) have basicially decided that they have had enough of ETA's horse hockey. A major crackdown in both countries as been going on. In short, Madrid put an end to the public's toleration of ETA.
March 23rd, 2006  
Corocotta
 
 
mmarsh, The Basque country is divided in three provinces: Vizcaya, Guipuzcoa and Álava. Only Guipuzcoa is near France, the other two are a litle bit in the west. The part of southern France that ETA claims as theirs is called Iparralde. You can see the map where they want to make their state here: Map

The reason of the ceasefire is because they want to start their secesionist process. To mantein the truce they gave three conditions:

- Referendum asking the Basques if they want independance-

- Independace

- Stop police and judicial persecution.


Mmarsh, every day there are more proves that point that ETA had something to do with the 11-M terrorist attacks, may be they did not put the bombs, but they helped the ones that did it. I have opened another threat to talk about this in the political area. The judicial investigation concerning the 11-m attacks is showing that there are many black holes, fake proves and a lot of dirty stuff.

In other order of things, there is not public toleration of ETA in Spain, only a few thousand people (around 15.000) in the Basque country support them, Remember that in Spain lives over 40 million people.


Phoenix80, yes, we are looking the cease of fire (not peace agreement) very carefully. Be had 13 before. It is a conditional truce, they will stop killing if they get the independance, and that is not going to happen, I can tell you. So the truce is "wet papper" (do you have this expression in english? )
March 24th, 2006  
mmarsh
 
 
Corocotta

Interesting post.

You maybe right, but I honestly think the police crackdown in both countries had something to do with it as well. Otherwise why did they wait until now they could have begun sessionist talks a decade ago?

I agree that nobody in Spain supported ETA, but I do think people in general are indifferent about those sort of thing as long as they are not personally involved. That's not a knock against Spain, I'm afraid its human nature. Look at al-Qaeda, they bombed the WTC in 1992, nobody cared. 2 US Africain embassies bombed in 1993, nobody cared. The USS Cole was nearly sunk, nobody cared. In all these episodes people were shocked or so for a few days and then they forgot about it and returned to their lives.

It took a catastrophic event such as 9-11, Madrid, or London (at that was reletively small) for people to finally wake up. Thats what I meant earlier...

All terrorist organizations, even non-affliated ones do business with one another. The IRA got weapons and explosives from Libya and Iran. They have recently caught a el-Qaeda member in Colombia helping the socialist FARC rebels, Carlos the Jackel was from South American but worked for Islamic terrorists and so on... So if your saying ETA was involved I am sure they were, the Free Corsica terror groups in France might have been as well.
March 25th, 2006  
bulldogg
 
 
One man's Basques is another man's Kurds.
March 25th, 2006  
phoenix80
 
 
I know what you mean, Corocotta
March 25th, 2006  
Corocotta
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by bulldogg
One man's Basques is another man's Kurds.
Are you saying that the Basque situation is the same than the Kurds?
March 28th, 2006  
bulldogg
 
 
Aye, I am indeed saying that my esteemed colleague.