The Russian took the Japanese troops apart in 1945 and attacked them with such force and determination they collapsed like a pack of cards. The Japanese would have folded in the finish as like the Germans they would have run out of men trying to fight on to many fronts and also garrisoning the the ground that they had taken
The old myth of the Siberian troops :a postwar invention :mrgreen:Because of prolonging the war and Allied countries helps, German troops become invalid. By blitz attacks from west and east by Germany and Japan, I guess the Russia couldn’t stand up more than one year. Moscow was rescued by the Siberian troops and if these troops got involved by Japans soldiers and if Hitler attacked to Moscow directly instead of deadly and useless wars in other cities (attack to head of snake instead of her body), Soviet Union would have been defeated. If this happened, the final victory was in German hands.
I think Moscow’s conquest wouldn’t have been a problem for Germany. At that time (31 Oct.) only 90000 soldiers and 150 Tanks were ready to defend Moscow. And the other cities weren’t in better condition such as Leningrad and Kiev.The problem is that there is nothing to say that the Soviet Union would have surrendered had Moscow fallen, there appears to be two schools of thought on this issue:
1) Stalin vowed to stay in Moscow and fight to the end, had this happened then I think there is a good chance they would have sued for peace without Stalin at the head.
2) Stalin leaves Moscow and the Russians launch their winter offensive against an over stretched and exhausted Army Group Centre in much the same way they did against the German 6th Army at Stalingrad an enveloping pincer movement, given the size of the salient it is entirely possible they would suffer the same fate as the 6th Army.
I think it is fair to say that Moscow is probably the lynch pin of the Russian transport system in the region so it may have been difficult for the Red Army to get into position for such an attack however the Red Army was well known for its ability to improvise (as evidenced in books by Antony Beevor and Erhard Raus who should know as he was there).
"In little over a month the Soviets organized eleven new armies which included 30 divisions of Siberian troops. These had been freed from the Soviet far east as Soviet intelligence had assured Stalin there was no longer a threat from the Japanese. With the Siberian forces came over 1,000 tanks and 1,000 aircraft."1) The 11 Army was a part of the NortWestern Front,which was not defending Moscow
2)The 11 Army NEVER counted 30 divisions (NO Soviet Army ever counted 30 divisions)
3) There never were 30 Siberian divisions on the frontline in 1941 (and,even for the whole war)
4)Between august and december 1941,15 divisions were transferred to the west,of which THREE Siberian one ,TWO of them were going to the Western front)
5)Not only the Siberian divisions were familiair with cold weather,but also the divisions of European Russia,and even the Germans on 1 december 1941,the Red Army had a frontstrength of 4 million,the overwhelming majority of which were born in the regions west of the Ural,and in these regions,it could be very cold in the winter
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