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M0rPh345 said:Long barrel doesn't always mean that the rifle is better or more accurate.
Really?
M0rPh345 said:Long barrel doesn't always mean that the rifle is better or more accurate.
Cadet Seaman said:M0rPh345 said:Long barrel doesn't always mean that the rifle is better or more accurate.
Really?
from a source read in The Times. L85A2
In 1997 the SA80 was dropped from NATO's list of approved weapons, following which an upgrade programme was started. In 2000 Heckler & Koch, at that time owned by Royal Ordnance, were contracted to fix the problems. Two hundred thousand SA80s were remanufactured at a cost of £400 each producing the A2 variant of the weapon. By 2002 the upgraded versions were deployed in first line formations. The upgrade involved replacement of many internal parts and has greatly increased reliability. In March 2005 the L85A2 was put through its paces against the M16 M4 AK47 AN-94 and G36 rifles. It outperformed all of them in accuracy (even without the SUSATs) and reload speed (physically changing magazine on the move and static), and all but the AK47 in reliability on multiple terrain, weather and climatic senarios. This showed up both the M16 and the new M4 as dangerously out of touch. Weight is left as the SA80's only real drawback and so the carbine variant has also been redeveloped with a 20-round magazine, and will enter service as a self-defence weapon for British Army tank crews during 2005.
Many specialist UK formations, such as the SAS, Royal Marine Special Boat Service, Royal Marine Brigade Recce Group (Formerly Mountain and Arctic Warfare Cadre), use the Diemaco C-7 or C-8 (Canadian licence-built copies of the M4 carbine) over the SA80 due to its lower weight, despite having only two-thirds the effective range of the SA80. This is because of their different combat requirements.
The Heckler and Koch upgrades are a matter of some debate; the UK Ministry of Defence could have ordered 100,000 G36 rifles for the same cost.
In a further Heckler and Koch upgrade a number of L85A2 rifles are now being fitted with the HK AG36 40 mm grenade launcher in a configuration similar to the M203.
Trevor said:C7, actually, but close enough , and it's closer to the M-16 than the M-4.
i used assualt rilfe on combat range were you run and shot and it not hardit is very hard to hit targets beyond 150m
so no you can hit thing and take them down with a 5.56 round with easy.
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