The infantry needs MPADS and MPATS but the range of those weapons is severely limited and they can't be networked, so that if one gunner misses the target, it gets away. It's the same with mortars. Mortars have similarities to artillery although they are infantry weapons. Mortars suffer from the same limitations, short range, can't be networked. The Field and Anti-Aircraft artillery are long range systems that have central control and direction so that the fire of these weapons can be massed on a target beyond visual range. Field artillery also has the capability of engaging in counter-battery fire, destroying enemy artillery and in interdicting fire, attacking concentration points and routes used by the enemy. Interdicting fire inflicts casualties on the enemy in his own rear area.

Originally Posted by brinktk

This is why gunners don't get any credit...every time someone tries to give it the grunts get angry and indignant. The point remington was trying to point out was that the grunts have the lions share of movies and the lions share of credit...when the lions share of killing on the battlefield is done by the artillery.

We are the King of battle, responsible for making sure the Queen doesn't get raped...

One thing I like to point out to my infantry brothers (much to their chagrin) that I served with while a fire support officer..."My artilleryman have been doing the grunts job since this war started...NOT ONE infantryman has done an artilleryman's job since this war started...food for thought" Or the fact that I could claim having more TICs under my belt and for longer durations than almost any grunt in the company...doing their job no less...it tended quiet them down a bit.

Point taken.
And yes, we grunts are probably very arrogant.

Originally Posted by Kesse81

Point taken.
And yes, we grunts are probably very arrogant.

No worries, I like to rib the grunts when I can. Make no mistake though, I cherish my time with the grunts the most out of my military service and I, as well as my gunners, know exactly why we have to be good at our jobs. It's for those grunts doing the killing, and being killed up close.

I don't mind giving and getting crap from my infantry brothers...it is because I love them that I tell them they are the scum of the earth!

We guys up front are just used to taking things for granted. We expect that the shells will be fired and hits where we want them, when we want them. We may well be ungrateful mother****ers, but I wonder if it´s not just part of our identity - we often regard ourselves as real warriors.

Occasionally, it's probably a good thing to be reminded that the world does not revolve around us.

Cheers m8

I served in the infantry. We worked with the artillery boys, but we were able to guide in the indirect fire. However, at one occasion; the artillery support squad counted it wrong so the salvo of 155mm shells landed to close for comfort. One shell fragment destroyed the radio carried by one soldier in my platoon. We had trust issues after the incident