Applications to CF




 
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January 2nd, 2005  
Tibs
 

Topic: Applications to CF


Hi, just have a few questions about the time it takes about the filling in the forms bit in the recruitment office. Well, if you guys can remember, I actually live in Hong Kong right now so I only have a limited time in the summer holidays in Canada (maybe a few days/a week or so since I plan on visiting UBC, UT, UA and RMC.....not sure how the hell I'm going to do that.....my parents sure won't be pleased with the expenditures...)
I realised I had to go get a form off a recuiter from the RMC website (though I seriously doubt I can get admitted).

Most of the people in my school send applications to uni. at the start of grade 12 (I'm in grade 11, we have grade 13 instead of prep school in British-pattern education). So including an extended extensive security check that will take up to several months, and taking into account I'll be 16 in the coming October, I believe that this will be the most suitable time for me to apply this summer.

Documents:
1. Do I need to go to World Education Services and have them assessed first?
2. Do I need any other documents? (i.e. Birth Records, passports, etc)
3. What documents do I need to fill in (I won't be 16 yet when I visit, does that mean I need a parents or legal guardians signature?)
4. Do I need to write my C.V. (Personal Statement, etc) at this stage? Would it be best if I had my school reports from every year, reports from my Boy Scout leaders, etc? I'm not too sure whether they take everything and keep it in a file cabinet (or send it to the RMC) or do they just have a look at it. That leaves me to another thought, if I'm applying for reserves and RMC at the same time, wouldn't that mean I need 2 valid copies of my high school transcript? Or do all my data get sent to the DND?

Recruitment Office:
4. What should be the first thing I do when I enter the office?
5. After I fill in the forms and give them all the things required, what happens? Do I need to stay a while longer and stuff?

Just a few questions in advance, I know I'm going a bit too far the line right now...I just found a bit of rather vague description when researching here:http://www.armee.forces.gc.ca/lf/English/1_3_1_5.asp

"Swimming - During Basic Training, you must also meet the military swim standard. This test involves jumping from a 3 metre board wearing a life jacket, then swimming 50 metres. You must also somersault into the water without a life jacket, tread water for two minutes, then swim 20 metres. If you cannot swim now, you are advised to take a basic swimming course before proceeding on training."

6. I'm concerned about this bit because I'm not a strong swimmer. When doing this test, do you wear clothes (or just swimmers)? If so, what type? Can you wear swimming goggles?

"Aerobic Fitness 2.4 km Run"

7. Is this cross-country or just on a flat track?



Thanks to anyone who has bothered to read this long post and answers it,
Tibs
January 2nd, 2005  
r031Button
 
 

Topic: Re: Applications to CF


Quote:
Originally Posted by Tibs
Hi, just have a few questions about the time it takes about the filling in the forms bit in the recruitment office. Well, if you guys can remember, I actually live in Hong Kong right now so I only have a limited time in the summer holidays in Canada (maybe a few days/a week or so since I plan on visiting UBC, UT, UA and RMC.....not sure how the h**l I'm going to do that.....my parents sure won't be pleased with the expenditures...)
I realised I had to go get a form off a recuiter from the RMC website (though I seriously doubt I can get admitted).

Most of the people in my school send applications to uni. at the start of grade 12 (I'm in grade 11, we have grade 13 instead of prep school in British-pattern education). So including an extended extensive security check that will take up to several months, and taking into account I'll be 16 in the coming October, I believe that this will be the most suitable time for me to apply this summer.

Documents:
1. Do I need to go to World Education Services and have them assessed first?
2. Do I need any other documents? (i.e. Birth Records, passports, etc)
3. What documents do I need to fill in (I won't be 16 yet when I visit, does that mean I need a parents or legal guardians signature?)
4. Do I need to write my C.V. (Personal Statement, etc) at this stage? Would it be best if I had my school reports from every year, reports from my Boy Scout leaders, etc? I'm not too sure whether they take everything and keep it in a file cabinet (or send it to the RMC) or do they just have a look at it. That leaves me to another thought, if I'm applying for reserves and RMC at the same time, wouldn't that mean I need 2 valid copies of my high school transcript? Or do all my data get sent to the DND?

Recruitment Office:
4. What should be the first thing I do when I enter the office?
5. After I fill in the forms and give them all the things required, what happens? Do I need to stay a while longer and stuff?

Just a few questions in advance, I know I'm going a bit too far the line right now...I just found a bit of rather vague description when researching here:http://www.armee.forces.gc.ca/lf/English/1_3_1_5.asp

"Swimming - During Basic Training, you must also meet the military swim standard. This test involves jumping from a 3 metre board wearing a life jacket, then swimming 50 metres. You must also somersault into the water without a life jacket, tread water for two minutes, then swim 20 metres. If you cannot swim now, you are advised to take a basic swimming course before proceeding on training."

6. I'm concerned about this bit because I'm not a strong swimmer. When doing this test, do you wear clothes (or just swimmers)? If so, what type? Can you wear swimming goggles?

"Aerobic Fitness 2.4 km Run"

7. Is this cross-country or just on a flat track?



Thanks to anyone who has bothered to read this long post and answers it,
Tibs
Usually they'll want you latest academic records. In addition they will want to see letters of refrence(two or three) from a reputable source...so your principal, or a sports coach, even an employers. The run is flat track; but don't expect that means that all you do is run flat track . The combat swim test is done in battle order I believe. Are you applying as an officer or are you going enlisted?
January 2nd, 2005  
Tibs
 

Topic: Re: Applications to CF


Quote:
Originally Posted by r031Button
Usually they'll want you latest academic records. In addition they will want to see letters of refrence(two or three) from a reputable source...so your principal, or a sports coach, even an employers. The run is flat track; but don't expect that means that all you do is run flat track . The combat swim test is done in battle order I believe. Are you applying as an officer or are you going enlisted?
Thanks for that. Well, I'm hoping to apply as an officer. But I wouldn't exactly mind applying as enlisted either (My current goals in life: (1)Pass high school with good grades (2) Get into university (3) Get in the forces)
RMC website (http://www.rmc.ca/admission/start_early/prep_e.html), it says:

"volunteering in community and/or church organisations,
participating and achieving in Boy Scouts, Girl Guides, Cadets or the Primary Reserve "

My parents think that my decision is obviously based upon computer games (which is not the case), and decided that I should take up any oppurtunity to have a taste of life in uniform. So heck, without knowing what's primary reserve, I'm deciding to apply to reserves as well.

"combat swim test is done in battle order"

Sorry, I don't quite understand that. Would you mind explaining that again please?
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January 2nd, 2005  
Pete031
 
 
Are you a Canadian citizen Tibs?
January 2nd, 2005  
Tibs
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pete031
Are you a Canadian citizen Tibs?
Yes
January 2nd, 2005  
Pete031
 
 
Well, if your not 16 yet, than I wouldn't worry about it too much yet, because to be in the Canadian Regular Force -which means active duty- you have to be 17... but search the DND website: www.dnd.ca and the RMC website. I wouldn't worry too much about the PT test, anyone who is remotely in shape can pass it, but, be in good shape, because once you are in, is when the PT starts... I don't want to send you too much information, because I don't want to misinform you, but check out DND recruiting, they should have the answers you need.
Best of Luck
January 3rd, 2005  
Locke
 
 
learn to swim!!! book yourlself into lessons at the local pool. they will teach you different strokes and will teach you how to do them correctly, they may even teach basic water safety (ie recover from water, rescusitation, i know our course did)
swim regularly!!!
it will help you in almost all areas of PT and its a helluva lot of fun, and if its like it is down here, its dirt cheap to do!!!
oh and it may save your life!!!

20m or 50m is seriously nothing to swim

good luck
January 3rd, 2005  
Tibs
 
Thanks for the replies

Perhaps you are quite right Pete, I might be worrying about it too much right now. But taking into account the day I'm hoping to pay a visit to the recuitment office (In late-August, around 2 months before my 16th birthday). I emailed CFRC Ottawa about it, they said I need a security check which may take up to several months (because I've left the country for quite a while). So taking that into account too, I'll be way into 16 and probably 1/2 way to 17 by the time they finish all that and start deciding whether or not they are going to accept my application. So I suppose I should start to worry now, correct me if I'm wrong.

Locke, I know how to swim......its just that.....I kinda suck at it. Not that I can't swim 20 meters, tread water for 2 mins and swim another 50, its just going to be very tiring (for some reason I can run and not swim).
January 3rd, 2005  
Locke
 
 
good way to practice: go swimming once a week.
on your first visit, dont go too hard, just do what you can do. for your next 3 visits, swim the same distance.
on the 5th visit, add another 100 meters. and repeat, every month adding another 100m

its worked for me

oh course, im not sure how practical it is to visit a pool every week, i know im blessed by having a pool within walking distance
January 3rd, 2005  
Pete031
 
 
Yeah man, It's a great Idea, I'm just not sure whether you can start the process before you are of age, but I might be wrong man, and there is no harm in trying