Anyone noticed...?




 
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Boots
 
January 6th, 2005  
DavidP
 

Topic: Anyone noticed...?


Has anyone noticed how so many people in this country (USA) have been so worried about how the Iraqi/insurgent prisoners are treated? Yet they show no concern for our troops in harms way. Are the lives of these people more important because we're charged with upholding and following the guidelines of the Geneva convention when these terrorists can just disregard it as they strap another brick of c4 on their 13 year old daughter and send it towards an American checkpoint... or how an insurgent attack kills a few dozen civilians and yet the people of Iraq still take it, but when an American bullet hits an innocent civilian it makes worldwide news... This has got to be one of the most annoying things I've ever seen... our own liberal media denouncing our fighting men and women while they sit back in their oversized chairs and wait for their next lexus payment... lol just my take on things.

edit: not ALL people are this way, but the it seems the dumbest people have the loudest voices...
January 6th, 2005  
Doc.S
 
I have noticed this for a long time now, over here in sweden I got the impression that amongs liberal big city fokes there are alot of anger towards everything that is the U.S. All news agencys including the news papers over here is if not with one small exception Svenska Dagbladet a news paper all liberal to that point that it is not worth to buy the damn thing. I have seen liberal news from the U.S and alot of talkshows with liberal ways to handle the public. I have this BOXER thing where I can see CNN, BBC and Fox-News all togheter with our biggest news chanel Rapport. What CNN and BBC and Rapport all shares is the Liberal way to handle the war. But CNN is good when it comes to humanitary efforts to gather and show all pain and suffering from for an example Indonesia, while Fox-News seems to be a not all to Liberal news chanel.

People in sweden is in generall a reserved people. But where I am working and living it seems to be the generall oppinon that the War against this Insurgents is something good and that U.S soldiers are doing a great job. But if you visit a major city as Stockholm or Gothenburg you will have a whole different view about the war. People in major citys are all one club I think. When people on the countryside - depending if you are looking at the North or the south of sweden is more "liberal" - "Republican". All this has to do with our political infrastructure when this country is a socialist country amongs the older generation and the mid generation. There are something that is called the opposition but it is so shattered that if they get any power in this country you will not have anything else then another socialist gov.

The young generation is often Left-wing or Communist supporters. All major opinion poll`s seems to be taken in the major citys so I think it is a hard thing to get the right picture about this Insurgent war efforts to be honest. The popular university brain wash machinery hatches the same figures every singel year. They are often Liberal and to be honest - I think all this has to do with a general attitude - save your own ass - I myself dont have any trouble with this issue on my work but I think alot of attitudes, opinions and feelings are suppresed in this country. Alot of the talks is just talks still there are places where people actually are thinking and acting as individuals - There I think you will find the best sweeds to be honest. This group thing is nothing else then anti-U.S mass-psychosis if you ask me. If they only put half of all that energy to criticize our own gov and all institutions I think this country would stand-side-by-side with the U.S in the struggle against world terrorism. But this is not going to happend. There is to less people in this country - 9 million and that is not much you can do then see them running around like dizzy chickens untill there are a real leader/party taking over the rudder over here. All this apathy and pacifist liberal way of life is triggerd from the schools and from other non-profit associations with its roots in the sneak communist party over here.

Cheers:
Doc.S
January 6th, 2005  
beardo
 
It seems everyone execpt the media in this country support the war and the troops (apart from the SUN lol)
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Boots
January 6th, 2005  
chewie_nz
 
hmmm interesting point about university doc S.

more educated = more "liberal"
January 6th, 2005  
Doc.S
 
Quote:
hmmm interesting point about university doc S.

more educated = more "liberal"
Educated in everything except real life?
Here in sweden there are alot of useful idiots if you ask me chewie_nz
And as with all liberal ways you only take one step forward and three back.

Seriously It is not education to learn people not to think for themselves.

Cheers:
Doc.S
January 6th, 2005  
Kane
 
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more educated = more "liberal"
Not really. Extraverted people tend to dislike Academics. It depends on personality and their point of views. You can't say that my older brother's educational studies in Colorado Springs (USAFA) was Liberal can you?
January 6th, 2005  
chewie_nz
 
i think there are all kinds of idiots, it almost like a religion!

not boundaries of race, wealth, country or belief.

and the only way to really know...is to work in a retail store!


but seriously i would rather go the "liberal" way than with conservatism by a long shot
January 6th, 2005  
CABAL
 
 
Sir, what are you trying to say?
January 6th, 2005  
Doc.S
 
It tends to be alot of things of the same material when using the conveyor belt method. I am as pointed a classic Extraverted person, and even if I got some education I still think for myselfe and academics are in general over here if not liberal so very similar on a spooky way. Almost as if they are some kind of clones from a big plant of conveyor belt methods on mars.

They are supposed to learn how to analyse different situations but on the same time they seem not to analyse anything at all and only points at you and tell you that you are not thinking. Good argument for times when the wind caress their sails (peace times). But not all to good as arguments when they are proven to be wrong (War times). Often it is the small people that survives when the fat-lady sings.

They are the ones who think for themselves and makes more then one analysis every year, and their analysis is often not something taken from other academics. More like a gut feeling - and they are not playing after one set of rules. It is more like a - you Improvice, Addept and overcome- thingy. Nothing is as strong as the inherent contradictions of pure survival.

People that tends to put all their problems on the shoulders of the academics, media, politicians are the once that get hit worst I think when the moment of truth is there. People that thinks for themselves are often despited of others and get easily dismissed as uncomfortable people, untill they are proven not to be wrong. And that can take time but It always comes sooner or later.


When the academics are proven to be wrong - It always ends with a big disaster. And sometimes I wonder if they are not competing about who can stay on the wrong place the longest time? Almost as the media - How will be the first one to report from a disaster area - and who will be the last one to leave the disaster area. Allright competition is normaly a good thing but to a serten point. Then it all going to be a destructive behaviour. This is what I think is happening with our country.

Instead of walking forward and face the new world - this country is locking itselfe in and building a wall around itselfe called the EU. Instead of taking security issues and domestic problems as - crisis plan they are talking about national crisis plans when the same thing can happend over here any day now, if you look at Spain and terrorist attacks over there. Analysists are often academics and academics are not good at prioritize todays security problems over here.

I think it would be healthy if there was more Extraverted persons in the gov that could speak for the people and not for there own intrests of power then a bunch of analysist mummys with so called academic backgrounds. Simple people is often the ones that think longer then to there own pockets to be honest. They are thinking about security and not pointless political correct agendas first. Because they know who that will be the ones hardest hit by a disaster or a terrorist attack.

Useful idiots is something that Lenin talked about - Western Liberals who swallowed the Utopian lies of Communism whole and defended Russia's actions as mere misunderstandings. If no one belives me this was proven to be a living fact over here in sweden the autumn of 2004, when alot of the established so called non communistic left-wing was reviewed by the media.

There are people all over this place with power from the lowest levels to the highest level of power and in the school system that eventualy will reflect on everything as the media - education - generall oppinion and all that makes a country as anti-U.S as this one is at the moment. The answers is out there but not everyone notice or dont want to see it for themselfe what all this hate is comming from.

Cheers:
Doc.S